Better Than Aliens
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@scottalanmiller said in Better Than Aliens:
@JaredBusch said in Better Than Aliens:
It is not private either. Access is automatically granted upon reach Thai. You have no access by choice.
It's still selective. People like Curtis does not get access. I thought it was automatic and found out later that it was not. Most people get it, but not all.
It's still secret, or effectively so. People have let the cat out of the bag, but it is not officially announced anywhere that I know and I never hear from anyone that hasn't gotten access that they know that it exists. If it was public that it existed, people who don't get access upon getting to Thai would be pretty put out.
Selective is not private. Anyone that reaches Thai gains access unless there are other circumstances that cause the CM to take action on an account.
It is automatic. Curtis was specifically disallowed by the CM at the time for whatever internal reasons. I was not part of that discussion and have no idea. I only know that because it was posted later and I read that post. I do not know if he had it and was removed or what. I don't care, honestly. But it most certainly is automatic.
There are public posts (watercooler) specifically mentioning the spicy peppers group going back to at least 2014. if not before. It is not secret.
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@JaredBusch said in Better Than Aliens:
It is automatic. Curtis was specifically disallowed by the CM at the time for whatever internal reasons. I was not part of that discussion and have no idea. I only know that because it was posted later and I read that post. I do not know if he had it and was removed or what. I don't care, honestly. But it most certainly is automatic.
I was told at the time that it was selective and he didn't get it. It was always secret when I was involved and from all I can tell, remains secret. Where is it announced if it is not secret? No one seems to know about it still. The fact that we are having this discussion is because someone didn't know
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@JaredBusch said in Better Than Aliens:
There are public posts (watercooler) specifically mentioning the spicy peppers group going back to at least 2014. if not before. It is not secret.
That's someone telling a secret, it's still officially secret AFAIK. It's not officially spoken of.
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@scottalanmiller said in Better Than Aliens:
@JaredBusch said in Better Than Aliens:
There are public posts (watercooler) specifically mentioning the spicy peppers group going back to at least 2014. if not before. It is not secret.
That's someone telling a secret, it's still officially secret AFAIK. It's not officially spoken of.
You were calling the Ubiquiti UNMS public because there is public but not announced information about it.
You cannot have it both ways, just because you like calling this one secret because you don't like the Spicy Pepper group. Also your timeline for "at the time" is horrible old. You have been self recused for years and things change constantly. maybe in the very first couple year it was not automatic. But it has been since before I hit Thai a long ass time ago.
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@JaredBusch said in Better Than Aliens:
@scottalanmiller said in Better Than Aliens:
@JaredBusch said in Better Than Aliens:
There are public posts (watercooler) specifically mentioning the spicy peppers group going back to at least 2014. if not before. It is not secret.
That's someone telling a secret, it's still officially secret AFAIK. It's not officially spoken of.
You were calling the Ubiquiti UNMS public because there is public but not announced information about it.
It was PUBLIC. On Github. That is totally public. The SP is not public, you can't get to it. If you are not in the private club you can't see the posts. That's the polar opposite of the Github situation.
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@JaredBusch said in Better Than Aliens:
You cannot have it both ways, just because you like calling this one secret because you don't like the Spicy Pepper group. Also your timeline for "at the time" is horrible old. You have been self recused for years and things change constantly. maybe in the very first couple year it was not automatic. But it has been since before I hit Thai a long ass time ago.
But as a non-SP, it remains secret. It's invisible, announced nowhere and never spoken of that we see in the community. I post on there as much as anyone and it never comes up, ever. And people ask about it all the time in places like this where someone hints about it and it turns out that people don't know about it.
Even if it is automatic, which is marginal at best as it is "automatic with a filter", that doesn't change it from being private (it's the definition of private) and secret (it's a kept secret and kept so that the public cannot see it and has never been officially exposed). That the secret has been spilt is not the same as not being a secret.
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@JaredBusch @scottalanmiller are you two brothers?
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@magroover said in Better Than Aliens:
@JaredBusch @scottalanmiller are you two brothers?
LOL, sometimes we sound like Hank and John.
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@magroover said in Better Than Aliens:
@JaredBusch @scottalanmiller are you two brothers?
This again? Myself and @scottalanmiller are almost guaranteed to be distantly related somehow, in addition to your suspicions about @JaredBusch. It's great fun when they disagree about things tho.
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More Curtis insanity. Did you know that VoIP uses on 6kb/s (NOT 6Kb/s). What is a kb anyway? K is Kilo. He makes a point that he doesn't mean that.
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@scottalanmiller said in Better Than Aliens:
More Curtis insanity. Did you know that VoIP uses on 6kb/s (NOT 6Kb/s). What is a kb anyway? K is Kilo. He makes a point that he doesn't mean that.
Killabitz... like Kilobits but modern youth centric
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And moderated. . . lol
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What was the high level take away?
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@scottalanmiller said in Better Than Aliens:
@DustinB3403 said in Better Than Aliens:
Already in moderation.
That is so funny lol. . . I didn't even use any adult words, just poked fun, and wished I could program printers again. Man that job was the bomb (way back in the day)
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@scottalanmiller said in Better Than Aliens:
What was the high level take away?
It's back (unmoderated) with Mod changed polls it seems.
Cause those were not the options listed previously lol.
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While he says the right thing that VLAN is stupid for VoIP....... Well it is still Curtis..
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@JaredBusch said in Better Than Aliens:
While he says the right thing that VLAN is stupid for VoIP....... Well it is still Curtis..
Perfect example of certs meaning nothing (if it's true).
