@scottalanmiller said in Static Web Site Design Tools:

@stacksofplates said in Static Web Site Design Tools:

I guess I just don't see how a WYSIWYG is helping with "web design". For content creators I can see the point, but if you're actually doing design you're not using a WYSIWYG editor.

That's true. But there is a pretty big chasm in complexity between what the majority of web designers are used to using, which is mostly WordPress, and what tools like Hugo do. One gives you graphical feedback instantly, one requires a lot of confusing work before you can even tell something exists.

Designers, by their very nature, are graphical. We are IT people the CLI is our native environment. Designers are the opposite. Hugo might actually be easier for me, rather than harder. But for a traditional designer, it's hard enough to induce panic. Whereas WordPress is just "pick it up and start playing".

Well that's what I mean though. Say you edit a CSS file in the theme you're using for Hugo, if you're using the local server you immediately see those changes. And at least in my experience, most of that is done in the browser first with the browsers developer tools, and then transferred to your source when you get it how you like it.

What @black3dynamite is mentioning is probably best.

I guess I just don't see how a WYSIWYG is helping with "web design". For content creators I can see the point, but if you're actually doing design you're not using a WYSIWYG editor.

Wrote a telegram bot running in cloud functions on GCP today.

Plus you should just start with a theme. You can just take their config.toml and add your specific info and then your pages.

@scottalanmiller said in Static Web Site Design Tools:

The Hugo server is just there to show the output of your changes

Yeah I mean you have to have some files there for it to display. But once you generate the site, it's just markdown and HTML/CSS/JS. You can do that in VSCode or anything to have linting and other tools. It doesn't have to be cli.

@scottalanmiller said in Static Web Site Design Tools:

It's been a while since I worked on static (non-database driven / non-CMS) web sites and am a bit out of touch. I know that some awesome new tools have cropped up like Hugo, Gatsby, Jekyll, and such have come about and they mostly look really cool. But they are all command line driven and while useful, would be pretty difficult for a web designer to work with. Big learning curve, and not a style that web people would be very comfortable using, I don't think.

I know that you can use WordPress and generate static sites from that. That has a "common workflow" advantage with non-static site design, so that's nice, too. But it's also quite a heavy process.

Wondering if anyone knows of other tools that might make sense. Could be a server side tool. Could be a desktop tool. Looking to see what is out there for making modern, nice websites, but static HTML.

What's the issue with Hugo being a cli tool? You don't really interact with it that way. For local dev you just run hugo server -D and it runs a local instance. From there on you would develop like normal.

@Emad-R said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

@black3dynamite said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

@Emad-R said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

@stacksofplates said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

Can you create it with virsh? Wondering if it's just a virt-manager issue since they are deprecating it.

Over my dead body. I love virt-manager they kick that out and I will be kicking them out. not everyone wants web gui using resources and being inefficient with VNC protocol and opening another port.

The web gui hardly use enough resources for you to even notice.

I do agree, cause I have split personality but that said I still want virt-manager to be around. It is very mature and snappy.

Deprecated is probably the same as how ifconfig is deprecated it will be around forever.

@scottalanmiller said in EMC VXRail:

@stacksofplates said in EMC VXRail:

Idk that seems like it's something that's not a very advanced thing. Like you have a data disk and just want to reattach it to a new VM.

OH!!! That's different than what I thought that you meant. We have that, have for a while.

Ok. That wasn't available the last time I used it. You had to get cli access to be able to have a persistent disk and move it to a new VM.

Did they ever get outward facing APIs working either? I definitely know that was something they said they were working on.

@scottalanmiller said in EMC VXRail:

@stacksofplates said in EMC VXRail:

@scottalanmiller said in EMC VXRail:

@stacksofplates said in EMC VXRail:

Did Scale ever give you the option to move disks between VMs? That seemed like such a crazy limitation that you couldn't have persistent disks (without special access or whatever it was).

Nope, the HEAT map still is the only mechanism for controlling that.

Wow. I thought they were working on a way to do that? It's been over a year since I last touched one.

I've never heard them mention that as something that they wanted to put on their roadmap. Their product is based so completely around being "set and forget" and self managing, that that kind of goes against the goals. Obviously that comes with caveats - but their product design is based around a minimum of options, with a maximum of automation. If they start adding too many knobs and buttons, it defeats the goals for their core market.

Starwind is the opposite, going for as many knobs and buttons as possible so that you can tune anything.

I thought I remembered them saying they had it planned, but I guess not.

Idk that seems like it's something that's not a very advanced thing. Like you have a data disk and just want to reattach it to a new VM. They had a video on how you can recover data by creating a snapshot, mounting that snapshot disk in a live image, and recovering data. That to me seems more complex than being able to attach a persistent disk. But it's not my product.