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    • nadnerBN
      nadnerB
      last edited by nadnerB

      Also:

      • 5000822 (Windows 10 1809)
      • 5000802 (Windows 10 2004 &20H2)

      These are the same as the ones listed above just for different versions of Windows 10

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      • nadnerBN
        nadnerB
        last edited by nadnerB

        More BSOD information:

        • Bug Check String: APC_INDEX_MISMATCH
        • Bug Check Code: 0x00000001
        • Caused by Driver: win32kfull.sys
        • File Description: Full/Desktop Win32k Kernel Driver

        What this has to do with printing, I don't know.

        Came across this: https://arikkatzuk.wordpress.com/2019/11/01/windows-10-and-kyocera-printing-issue-win32kfull-sys-failed/
        While not exactly the same issue, it's close enough to warrant investigation.

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        • hobbit666H
          hobbit666 @nadnerB
          last edited by hobbit666

          @nadnerB said in Windows 10 BSOD When Printing:

          More BSOD information:

          • Bug Check String: APC_INDEX_MISMATCH
          • Bug Check Code: 0x00000001
          • Caused by Driver: win32kfull.sys
          • File Description: Full/Desktop Win32k Kernel Driver

          What this has to do with printing, I don't know.

          Came across this: https://arikkatzuk.wordpress.com/2019/11/01/windows-10-and-kyocera-printing-issue-win32kfull-sys-failed/
          While not exactly the same issue, it's close enough to warrant investigation.

          Just had a helpdesk ticket with the same issue. But we don't kyocera printers just HP and brother.

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          • nadnerBN
            nadnerB
            last edited by

            One other Avenue I was investigating was the intel graphics driver but when I updated that on another pc, it made no difference. Also of note I have a Dell 2in1 that is in affected

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            • hobbit666H
              hobbit666
              last edited by

              We've only seen it on one machine at the moment.

              Just did a google on APC_INDEX_MISMATCH and win32kfull.sys found this:-

              Way 1. Disable Realtek HD Audio Manager from Start-up
              Way 2. Reinstall Your Display Driver
              Way 3. Update Your Device Drivers
              Way 4. Run Windows System File Checker ("sfc /scannow")

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              • nadnerBN
                nadnerB
                last edited by

                It’s finally getting some traction
                https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/03/10/windows-10-kb5000802-march-update-is-crashing-pcs-with-bsod/

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  I have an entire site unable to print to their Kyocera. If they do, BSOD

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by Dashrender

                    In the middle of removing this CU to see if Dymo Labelwriter 450's will print non blank labels.

                    https://wordpress.org/support/topic/blank-label-issue-after-w10-kb5000802-update/

                    *edit - and confirmed, Dymo returned to normal printing after CU's removal.

                    At least it didn't BSOD the machine.

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                      dmacf10 @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender Same issue for my office this morning. Good news is that uninstalling the update took care of it.

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1
                        last edited by

                        Today, I got confirmation that this same KB is effecting DYMO label printers. They have a working version of the DYMO LabelWriter software out, but not the DYMO Connect software we use.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @travisdh1
                          last edited by

                          @travisdh1 said in Windows 10 BSOD When Printing:

                          Today, I got confirmation that this same KB is effecting DYMO label printers. They have a working version of the DYMO LabelWriter software out, but not the DYMO Connect software we use.

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                          What software did you find that is compatible? I don't see a new version of Windows based Dymo Labelwriter software...

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            Dymo's post about the problem.

                            https://www.dymo.com/en-GB/software-fix

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in Windows 10 BSOD When Printing:

                              Dymo's post about the problem.

                              https://www.dymo.com/en-GB/software-fix

                              Removing the update didn't work for us. Still getting blank labels. Monday I'll check if that software from that article is a working version of DYMO Connect.

                              They've had a working version of the DYMO LabelWriter software out, but that doesn't provide an API that a website can use to print labels with, which is what this client uses the printers for.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @travisdh1
                                last edited by

                                @travisdh1 said in Windows 10 BSOD When Printing:

                                @Dashrender said in Windows 10 BSOD When Printing:

                                Dymo's post about the problem.

                                https://www.dymo.com/en-GB/software-fix

                                Removing the update didn't work for us. Still getting blank labels. Monday I'll check if that software from that article is a working version of DYMO Connect.

                                They've had a working version of the DYMO LabelWriter software out, but that doesn't provide an API that a website can use to print labels with, which is what this client uses the printers for.

                                The uninstall has worked the the crappy new version Dymo has...

                                That said, version 8.x is the only version that works with our software,

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                                  JasGot @travisdh1
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                                  @travisdh1 said in Windows 10 BSOD When Printing:

                                  @Dashrender said in Windows 10 BSOD When Printing:

                                  Dymo's post about the problem.

                                  https://www.dymo.com/en-GB/software-fix

                                  Removing the update didn't work for us. Still getting blank labels. Monday I'll check if that software from that article is a working version of DYMO Connect.

                                  They've had a working version of the DYMO LabelWriter software out, but that doesn't provide an API that a website can use to print labels with, which is what this client uses the printers for.

                                  We've had to fix this over 200 times this past week.

                                  WHEN IT INVOLVED A PC WITH ONLY a DYMO, not every case had the KB5000802 update, so we just stopped removing that update and went straight to this process every time. It had work every time for us. If there was a Dymo AND a Kyocera, we continued removing KB5000802.

                                  • BACKUP UP YOUR Labels if you created any labels with a newer version of Dymo. 8.5.4 will not see than, but it will delete them.
                                  • Unplug the USB Cable from the Dymo.
                                  • Uninstall Dymo Software.
                                  • Load Print Management and remove the Dymo Driver and Package.
                                  • Restart the PC.
                                  • Open Print Management again and WAIT for the DYMO driver to go away (can take up to 3 minutes after the reboot in our experience).
                                  • Open Device Manager, Expand Printers and make sure the Dymo is gone from the Printers area.
                                  • Install Dymo 8.5.4
                                  • Plug USB cable back in.

                                  This procedure has work every single time on more than 200 workstations this week.

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                                    JasGot
                                    last edited by JasGot

                                    Came in this morning to several end users that with kb:5000802 re-installed. I though MS took it down?

                                    There is a PSWindowsUpdate module that can be used to block a single update, but it comes from Microsoft Gallery with is user populated and not verified by MS. So I m looking for another command-line-only wau to block KB5000802

                                    If you're a brave soul, or want to go verify the module yourself, here are the commands:

                                    Install-PackageProvider -Name NuGet -MinimumVersion 2.8.5.201 -Force
                                    Install-Module PSWindowsUpdate
                                    Install-WindowsUpdate -NotKBArticle "KB5000802" -AcceptAll

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                                    • nadnerBN
                                      nadnerB @JasGot
                                      last edited by

                                      @JasGot said in Windows 10 BSOD When Printing:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Windows 10 BSOD When Printing:

                                      @Dashrender said in Windows 10 BSOD When Printing:

                                      Dymo's post about the problem.

                                      https://www.dymo.com/en-GB/software-fix

                                      Removing the update didn't work for us. Still getting blank labels. Monday I'll check if that software from that article is a working version of DYMO Connect.

                                      They've had a working version of the DYMO LabelWriter software out, but that doesn't provide an API that a website can use to print labels with, which is what this client uses the printers for.

                                      We've had to fix this over 200 times this past week.

                                      WHEN IT INVOLVED A PC WITH ONLY a DYMO, not every case had the KB5000802 update, so we just stopped removing that update and went straight to this process every time. It had work every time for us. If there was a Dymo AND a Kyocera, we continued removing KB5000802.

                                      • BACKUP UP YOUR Labels if you created any labels with a newer version of Dymo. 8.5.4 will not see than, but it will delete them.
                                      • Unplug the USB Cable from the Dymo.
                                      • Uninstall Dymo Software.
                                      • Load Print Management and remove the Dymo Driver and Package.
                                      • Restart the PC.
                                      • Open Print Management again and WAIT for the DYMO driver to go away (can take up to 3 minutes after the reboot in our experience).
                                      • Open Device Manager, Expand Printers and make sure the Dymo is gone from the Printers area.
                                      • Install Dymo 8.5.4
                                      • Plug USB cable back in.

                                      This procedure has work every single time on more than 200 workstations this week.

                                      Used that this arvo to great success 🙂

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                                      • nadnerBN
                                        nadnerB @JasGot
                                        last edited by

                                        @JasGot said in Windows 10 BSOD When Printing:

                                        Came in this morning to several end users that with kb:5000802 re-installed. I though MS took it down?

                                        There is a PSWindowsUpdate module that can be used to block a single update, but it comes from Microsoft Gallery with is user populated and not verified by MS. So I m looking for another command-line-only wau to block KB5000802

                                        If you're a brave soul, or want to go verify the module yourself, here are the commands:

                                        Install-PackageProvider -Name NuGet -MinimumVersion 2.8.5.201 -Force
                                        Install-Module PSWindowsUpdate
                                        Install-WindowsUpdate -NotKBArticle "KB5000802" -AcceptAll

                                        I used the guide here as a base

                                        DISM.exe /Online /Remove-Package /PackageName:$package /quiet /norestart
                                        

                                        To find the packagename, I used

                                        dism /online /get-packages /format:table
                                        

                                        Then I dropped that into a task sequence and deployed via MS Config Manager... allowing users to rerun it.
                                        Not perfect but it got us out of a jam while we tested the Kyocera XPS drivers... which have brought their own set of interesting issues

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch
                                          last edited by JaredBusch

                                          Windows 10 2004 - KB5000802 was also causing BSOD when opening a PDF file in Adobe Illustrator.

                                          Confirmed removal resolved the issue.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            Looks like they released a fix

                                            https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/march-15-2021-kb5001567-os-builds-19041-868-and-19042-868-out-of-band-6e0844a2-7551-4b2d-9c4b-4274a5949bf3

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