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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @hobbit666
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      @hobbit666 said in VULTR NJ location: Partial Power failure.:

      Out of interest do Vultr / Azure / AWS / etc offer HA for instances between different locations?

      No. Not even their "Load Balancer" thing does that.
      https://www.vultr.com/products/load-balancers/
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      But VPS provider != Cloud provider

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @hobbit666
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        @hobbit666 said in VULTR NJ location: Partial Power failure.:

        Out of interest do Vultr / Azure / AWS / etc offer HA for instances between different locations?

        You are mixing things up here.

        Vultr is not a cloud provider, they are a VPS provider

        AWS and Azure are cloud providers. They both offer regional redundancy/recovery options.

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        • hobbit666H
          hobbit666 @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said in VULTR NJ location: Partial Power failure.:

          @hobbit666 said in VULTR NJ location: Partial Power failure.:

          Out of interest do Vultr / Azure / AWS / etc offer HA for instances between different locations?

          You are mixing things up here.

          Vultr is not a cloud provider, they are a VPS provider

          AWS and Azure are cloud providers. They both offer regional redundancy/recovery options.

          Then yes i am 😄 thought they were all the same lol.

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            1337
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            It looks like Vultr have their servers in colo at the QTS Piscataway NJ datacenter.
            https://www.qtsdatacenters.com/data-centers/piscataway

            The datacenter looks to be the real deal so "a partial power outage to a subset of servers" is probably just a rack PDU failure or possibly overloading of a rack so circuit breakers cut the power.

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              1337 @1337
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              @Pete-S said in VULTR NJ location: Partial Power failure.:

              It looks like Vultr have their servers in colo at the QTS Piscataway NJ datacenter.
              https://www.qtsdatacenters.com/data-centers/piscataway

              The datacenter looks to be the real deal so "a partial power outage to a subset of servers" is probably just a rack PDU failure or possibly overloading of a rack so circuit breakers cut the power.

              Assuming enterprise gear all servers have dual power supplies and each rack has two PDUs. Every equipment draws power from both PDUs. So each PDU carries half the power of the rack.

              If one PDU breaks the other PDU has to carry all power. Now it will get twice the current and if that is too much (if you didn't pay attention to the power draw), the circuit breakers to the working PDU will cut the power to the entire rack and all servers goes down.

              One rack with about 40 servers will probably host a good amount of VPSs.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                @gjacobse said in VULTR NJ location: Partial Power failure.:

                I wasn’t affected, but I’d be curious to see how the system is designed - over all - and see what the break in redundancy was.

                It's cloud, redundancy is meant to come from you, not the DC.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                  @gjacobse said in VULTR NJ location: Partial Power failure.:

                  What do you do when the hosted service has a power failure which brings your instance down?

                  Generally nothing. It's rare and generally just a few minutes, it almost never causes actual impact.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                    @gjacobse said in VULTR NJ location: Partial Power failure.:

                    Even on a on prem server will have down time from time to time.

                    On prem typically as the most.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @1337
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                      @Pete-S said in VULTR NJ location: Partial Power failure.:

                      Since vultr is using consumer CPUs to bring the cost down I bet their infrastructure is at the same level.

                      We see fewer unplanned outages than with AWS. How do you feel about Amazon based on that?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said in VULTR NJ location: Partial Power failure.:

                        Vultr is not a cloud provider, they are a VPS provider

                        Vultr is absolutely cloud. Cloud presented with a VPN interface. It's still cloud in every way. Just like Digital Ocean or Linode or AWS (via Lightsail.)

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @1337
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                          @Pete-S said in VULTR NJ location: Partial Power failure.:

                          Since vultr is using consumer CPUs to bring the cost down I bet their infrastructure is at the same level.

                          Consumer CPUs would normally do the opposite, that's why enterprises use bigger processors, to get more bang for the buck in a smaller space.

                          But how did you determine that? I just looked at my servers and their specs only match server class Xeon processors (Skylake 16MB L3) so not sure how it is possible for them to be consumer.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in VULTR NJ location: Partial Power failure.:

                            @Pete-S said in VULTR NJ location: Partial Power failure.:

                            Since vultr is using consumer CPUs to bring the cost down I bet their infrastructure is at the same level.

                            We see fewer unplanned outages than with AWS. How do you feel about Amazon based on that?

                            What do you have running in AWS for which you have outages?

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                              1337 @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in VULTR NJ location: Partial Power failure.:

                              But how did you determine that? I just looked at my servers and their specs only match server class Xeon processors (Skylake 16MB L3) so not sure how it is possible for them to be consumer.

                              I don't remember exactly. A couple of years ago you could determine that there was actually no xeon of that architecture that would fit with the GHz. Since they are obscuring the actual CPU in their linux kernel you can't read the model number outright. I going from memory here, but that was the gist of it.

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