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    Windows 8.1 to Windows 10: Mistake?

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      Did you have Windows 8.1 Pro on the laptop when it upgraded to Windows 10? If not, you can only activate Windows 10 (home edition) for free. You'll have to download the ISO and install again.

      FYI, Windows (starting in Windows 8 I believe) has a new feature called Refresh. It is suppose to perform an in place clean install of the OS, though I'm sure you can't actually change anything about the partitions to have it work.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        I have reinstalled both home and pro machines after accepting the upgrade. Both auto activate after installation is completed. You just choose the options to skip/give code later during the install.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Maybe it is a sign, time for Linux!

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
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            Were you truly running the OEM key when you upgraded?

            My desktop was running a Technet or MS Partner 8.1 key when I originally upgraded from that ot 10. I ran into the same issue when I went to do a fresh install.

            I installed back to 7 (the original key on the box) and then upgraded to 10. Then nuked the system and installed fresh again and it activated just fine.

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            • gjacobseG
              gjacobse @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said:

              Were you truly running the OEM key when you upgraded?

              My desktop was running a Technet or MS Partner 8.1 key when I originally upgraded from that ot 10. I ran into the same issue when I went to do a fresh install.

              I installed back to 7 (the original key on the box) and then upgraded to 10. Then nuked the system and installed fresh again and it activated just fine.

              What would you call the key used from ACER, Dell, HP, etc.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                Use SysSpec from Alex Nolan it's a very simple tool that can pull this key for you.

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre
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                  As I understand it Microsoft automagically assigns your computer a new key when you upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 10... If you log in to the machine with your Microsoft account it should retrieve that key for you, assuming you actually logged in to your old machine with a Microsoft account.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @dafyre
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                    @dafyre said:

                    As I understand it Microsoft automagically assigns your computer a new key when you upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 10... If you log in to the machine with your Microsoft account it should retrieve that key for you, assuming you actually logged in to your old machine with a Microsoft account.

                    IT has nothing to do with your account. The machine ID is tied to the hardware.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @gjacobse
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                      @gjacobse said:

                      What would you call the key used from ACER, Dell, HP, etc.

                      That is the OEM key. My question was are you sure your system was using that key prior to the upgrade?

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch That is correct. I think it is stored in your account. I upgraded from 8 to 10, and then wiped, and installed 10 from scratch and it installed without asking me for a key or anything.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @dafyre
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                          @dafyre said:

                          @JaredBusch That is correct. I think it is stored in your account. I upgraded from 8 to 10, and then wiped, and installed 10 from scratch and it installed without asking me for a key or anything.

                          You can give the machine to someone else. They can wipe and reinstall and log in with their account and it will be licensed. The license is tied to the hardware and does not know anything about the account.

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                          • gjacobseG
                            gjacobse @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch said:

                            @gjacobse said:

                            What would you call the key used from ACER, Dell, HP, etc.

                            That is the OEM key. My question was are you sure your system was using that key prior to the upgrade?

                            I have no reason to think that the key would have been changed.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              What version of Windows 10 is on it now? what version of Windows 8.1 was on it before?

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender Me? Home Premium and the Win 10 Home Premium edition, I think... I wish they'd take a play out of Apples play book... One Desktop OS without the 10871320487210437 different licensing options.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @dafyre
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                                  @dafyre said:

                                  @Dashrender Me? Home Premium and the Win 10 Home Premium edition, I think... I wish they'd take a play out of Apples play book... One Desktop OS without the 10871320487210437 different licensing options.

                                  I thought there were only three versions of Windows 10. Home, Professional, and Enterprise?

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                                  • nadnerBN
                                    nadnerB @coliver
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                                    @coliver said:

                                    @dafyre said:

                                    @Dashrender Me? Home Premium and the Win 10 Home Premium edition, I think... I wish they'd take a play out of Apples play book... One Desktop OS without the 10871320487210437 different licensing options.

                                    I thought there were only three versions of Windows 10. Home, Professional, and Enterprise?

                                    There are 5. Add Education and IoT to your list 🙂

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @nadnerB
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                                      @nadnerB Yepp... and that is 4 too many.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @nadnerB
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                                        @nadnerB said:

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @dafyre said:

                                        @Dashrender Me? Home Premium and the Win 10 Home Premium edition, I think... I wish they'd take a play out of Apples play book... One Desktop OS without the 10871320487210437 different licensing options.

                                        I thought there were only three versions of Windows 10. Home, Professional, and Enterprise?

                                        There are 5. Add Education and IoT to your list 🙂

                                        I think there are more because of the smaller than 8 inch screen, but there might not be an actual license difference, only a "i know what size screen I'm installed on, so I know I'm free" portion to the code.. not sure.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @dafyre
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                                          @dafyre said:

                                          @nadnerB Yepp... and that is 4 too many.

                                          I think it's 3 to many, perhaps 4 if you include the new free license for devices with screens smaller than 8 inches.
                                          IoT should definitely be it's own license,
                                          Free smaller than 8 inches
                                          everything else.

                                          From there it would be nice to see something like a feature pack that businesses buy when they need DA, etc.

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                                          • nadnerBN
                                            nadnerB @nadnerB
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                                            @nadnerB said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @dafyre said:

                                            @Dashrender Me? Home Premium and the Win 10 Home Premium edition, I think... I wish they'd take a play out of Apples play book... One Desktop OS without the 10871320487210437 different licensing options.

                                            I thought there were only three versions of Windows 10. Home, Professional, and Enterprise?

                                            There are 5. Add Education and IoT to your list 🙂

                                            oops, I left off the Mobile version... if you want to include that (not out of preview yet)

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