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@Dashrender said in Automation thought:
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I'm confused how the data gets onto the server in the first place? Didn't you start thing thing by saying there's a cloud component.
Is the cloud component just a web front end that actually talks to the server and update the server with the things changed on that web front end?
Is there a client server setup for the manager's PC? i.e. software that runs on the Windows 10 PC that connects to Aloha on the server, and then they can run reports from that? More or less like they did when using the Aloha software directly on the "server"?
Let me try explaining how this works without sounding like a complete idiot:
The way the "Cloud" works for this software is : all of the Database files (i.e Items, Employees, Menus, Submenus etc) are saved a remote server, and sent down to the server every x amount of time ( I dont know the exact amount. but it is multiple times a day - basically every time you save a change.) that's it. The reports run off of a Transaction log that is held at the Server onsite, and Some of the Data Base files (i.e adjust Time, edit shifts etc) are all held on site as well.
The only way to view reports, is having the Transaction log, and Data base files that hold reporting information on them. It's not Ideal, but it does make it easier for some customers to make changes, and send them to the stores.The vendor hasn't came up with a way to store everything including reporting on the Cloud Server yet...
they haven't? that seems crazy! That shouldn't be that hard to do if they really wanted.
Though I can see keeping it all local because if the internet goes down, the terminals continue to work.
So my question is - is there software that can go onto the manager's PC that will directly access the server (and it's data) where they can run their reports from?
Also, what are these files you're copying? are they CSVs - i..e something that can be opened by Excel and reports run? or some db type that has to be loaded into something to function?
The way it's looking like it's going to go is every Site is going to have a manager PC that will have the access to that Configuration Center, we would just need to pull the files - File types are .dbf files, which can be opened and ran in Excel, but it's messy.
and .log files, which need to loaded into something to read them..yeah that's ugly...
Aloha doesn't have software that can run on the manager PC to access the files more "normally"?
I assume today, most customers use the aloha software on the "server" to run their reports.... I'm proposing the same, only having a client software on the manager PC that the user uses instead of directly on the "server' itself.
LOL tell me about it..
they do have a "hosted solution" where they will pull the reports for you and keep them on a cloud but its some ridiculous price per month for them to do that... I wish there was an easier way
Definitely not what I'm talking about.
Are you really telling me - aloha only ever expects someone to do report directly on the "server"? and other than this stupid online thing for billion dollars, they don't have a manager's PC option....
Why am I not surprised.. they are the quickbooks of restaurant systems..
It's not really Billions of Dollars.
But, yeah, that's what I'm telling you- Aloha does expect you to get on the server to run reports - Hence Why I needed a way to automate File Transfers so people can run reports from the Manager PC.. I dont make the rules for the system I just have to work around them ..
My production Speciality Brink is 100% remote, so I dont have this problem - i have several others, but not this one. -
LOL
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@WrCombs said in Automation thought:
@Dashrender said in Automation thought:
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@Dashrender said in Automation thought:
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@Dashrender said in Automation thought:
I'm confused how the data gets onto the server in the first place? Didn't you start thing thing by saying there's a cloud component.
Is the cloud component just a web front end that actually talks to the server and update the server with the things changed on that web front end?
Is there a client server setup for the manager's PC? i.e. software that runs on the Windows 10 PC that connects to Aloha on the server, and then they can run reports from that? More or less like they did when using the Aloha software directly on the "server"?
Let me try explaining how this works without sounding like a complete idiot:
The way the "Cloud" works for this software is : all of the Database files (i.e Items, Employees, Menus, Submenus etc) are saved a remote server, and sent down to the server every x amount of time ( I dont know the exact amount. but it is multiple times a day - basically every time you save a change.) that's it. The reports run off of a Transaction log that is held at the Server onsite, and Some of the Data Base files (i.e adjust Time, edit shifts etc) are all held on site as well.
The only way to view reports, is having the Transaction log, and Data base files that hold reporting information on them. It's not Ideal, but it does make it easier for some customers to make changes, and send them to the stores.The vendor hasn't came up with a way to store everything including reporting on the Cloud Server yet...
they haven't? that seems crazy! That shouldn't be that hard to do if they really wanted.
Though I can see keeping it all local because if the internet goes down, the terminals continue to work.
So my question is - is there software that can go onto the manager's PC that will directly access the server (and it's data) where they can run their reports from?
Also, what are these files you're copying? are they CSVs - i..e something that can be opened by Excel and reports run? or some db type that has to be loaded into something to function?
The way it's looking like it's going to go is every Site is going to have a manager PC that will have the access to that Configuration Center, we would just need to pull the files - File types are .dbf files, which can be opened and ran in Excel, but it's messy.
and .log files, which need to loaded into something to read them..yeah that's ugly...
Aloha doesn't have software that can run on the manager PC to access the files more "normally"?
I assume today, most customers use the aloha software on the "server" to run their reports.... I'm proposing the same, only having a client software on the manager PC that the user uses instead of directly on the "server' itself.
LOL tell me about it..
they do have a "hosted solution" where they will pull the reports for you and keep them on a cloud but its some ridiculous price per month for them to do that... I wish there was an easier way
Definitely not what I'm talking about.
Are you really telling me - aloha only ever expects someone to do report directly on the "server"? and other than this stupid online thing for billion dollars, they don't have a manager's PC option....
Why am I not surprised.. they are the quickbooks of restaurant systems..
It's not really Billions of Dollars.
But, yeah, that's what I'm telling you- Aloha does expect you to get on the server to run reports - Hence Why I needed a way to automate File Transfers so people can run reports from the Manager PC.. I dont make the rules for the system I just have to work around them ..
My production Speciality Brink is 100% remote, so I dont have this problem - i have several others, but not this one.I just realized I said "remote" instead of Cloud Based ... :man_facepalming:
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@WrCombs said in Automation thought:
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@Dashrender said in Automation thought:
I'm confused how the data gets onto the server in the first place? Didn't you start thing thing by saying there's a cloud component.
Is the cloud component just a web front end that actually talks to the server and update the server with the things changed on that web front end?
Is there a client server setup for the manager's PC? i.e. software that runs on the Windows 10 PC that connects to Aloha on the server, and then they can run reports from that? More or less like they did when using the Aloha software directly on the "server"?
Let me try explaining how this works without sounding like a complete idiot:
The way the "Cloud" works for this software is : all of the Database files (i.e Items, Employees, Menus, Submenus etc) are saved a remote server, and sent down to the server every x amount of time ( I dont know the exact amount. but it is multiple times a day - basically every time you save a change.) that's it. The reports run off of a Transaction log that is held at the Server onsite, and Some of the Data Base files (i.e adjust Time, edit shifts etc) are all held on site as well.
The only way to view reports, is having the Transaction log, and Data base files that hold reporting information on them. It's not Ideal, but it does make it easier for some customers to make changes, and send them to the stores.The vendor hasn't came up with a way to store everything including reporting on the Cloud Server yet...
they haven't? that seems crazy! That shouldn't be that hard to do if they really wanted.
Though I can see keeping it all local because if the internet goes down, the terminals continue to work.
So my question is - is there software that can go onto the manager's PC that will directly access the server (and it's data) where they can run their reports from?
Also, what are these files you're copying? are they CSVs - i..e something that can be opened by Excel and reports run? or some db type that has to be loaded into something to function?
The way it's looking like it's going to go is every Site is going to have a manager PC that will have the access to that Configuration Center, we would just need to pull the files - File types are .dbf files, which can be opened and ran in Excel, but it's messy.
and .log files, which need to loaded into something to read them..yeah that's ugly...
Aloha doesn't have software that can run on the manager PC to access the files more "normally"?
I assume today, most customers use the aloha software on the "server" to run their reports.... I'm proposing the same, only having a client software on the manager PC that the user uses instead of directly on the "server' itself.
LOL tell me about it..
they do have a "hosted solution" where they will pull the reports for you and keep them on a cloud but its some ridiculous price per month for them to do that... I wish there was an easier way
Definitely not what I'm talking about.
Are you really telling me - aloha only ever expects someone to do report directly on the "server"? and other than this stupid online thing for billion dollars, they don't have a manager's PC option....
Why am I not surprised.. they are the quickbooks of restaurant systems..
It's not really Billions of Dollars.
But, yeah, that's what I'm telling you- Aloha does expect you to get on the server to run reports - Hence Why I needed a way to automate File Transfers so people can run reports from the Manager PC.. I dont make the rules for the system I just have to work around them ..
My production Speciality Brink is 100% remote, so I dont have this problem - i have several others, but not this one.I just realized I said "remote" instead of Cloud Based ... :man_facepalming:
You don't know it's really cloud - it could simply be remote.
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@WrCombs said in Automation thought:
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@Dashrender said in Automation thought:
@WrCombs said in Automation thought:
@Dashrender said in Automation thought:
@WrCombs said in Automation thought:
@Dashrender said in Automation thought:
@WrCombs said in Automation thought:
@Dashrender said in Automation thought:
I'm confused how the data gets onto the server in the first place? Didn't you start thing thing by saying there's a cloud component.
Is the cloud component just a web front end that actually talks to the server and update the server with the things changed on that web front end?
Is there a client server setup for the manager's PC? i.e. software that runs on the Windows 10 PC that connects to Aloha on the server, and then they can run reports from that? More or less like they did when using the Aloha software directly on the "server"?
Let me try explaining how this works without sounding like a complete idiot:
The way the "Cloud" works for this software is : all of the Database files (i.e Items, Employees, Menus, Submenus etc) are saved a remote server, and sent down to the server every x amount of time ( I dont know the exact amount. but it is multiple times a day - basically every time you save a change.) that's it. The reports run off of a Transaction log that is held at the Server onsite, and Some of the Data Base files (i.e adjust Time, edit shifts etc) are all held on site as well.
The only way to view reports, is having the Transaction log, and Data base files that hold reporting information on them. It's not Ideal, but it does make it easier for some customers to make changes, and send them to the stores.The vendor hasn't came up with a way to store everything including reporting on the Cloud Server yet...
they haven't? that seems crazy! That shouldn't be that hard to do if they really wanted.
Though I can see keeping it all local because if the internet goes down, the terminals continue to work.
So my question is - is there software that can go onto the manager's PC that will directly access the server (and it's data) where they can run their reports from?
Also, what are these files you're copying? are they CSVs - i..e something that can be opened by Excel and reports run? or some db type that has to be loaded into something to function?
The way it's looking like it's going to go is every Site is going to have a manager PC that will have the access to that Configuration Center, we would just need to pull the files - File types are .dbf files, which can be opened and ran in Excel, but it's messy.
and .log files, which need to loaded into something to read them..yeah that's ugly...
Aloha doesn't have software that can run on the manager PC to access the files more "normally"?
I assume today, most customers use the aloha software on the "server" to run their reports.... I'm proposing the same, only having a client software on the manager PC that the user uses instead of directly on the "server' itself.
LOL tell me about it..
they do have a "hosted solution" where they will pull the reports for you and keep them on a cloud but its some ridiculous price per month for them to do that... I wish there was an easier way
Definitely not what I'm talking about.
Are you really telling me - aloha only ever expects someone to do report directly on the "server"? and other than this stupid online thing for billion dollars, they don't have a manager's PC option....
Why am I not surprised.. they are the quickbooks of restaurant systems..
It's not really Billions of Dollars.
But, yeah, that's what I'm telling you- Aloha does expect you to get on the server to run reports - Hence Why I needed a way to automate File Transfers so people can run reports from the Manager PC.. I dont make the rules for the system I just have to work around them ..
My production Speciality Brink is 100% remote, so I dont have this problem - i have several others, but not this one.I just realized I said "remote" instead of Cloud Based ... :man_facepalming:
Right, isn't that what matters? If it is or isn't cloud is irrelevant to the customer, only remote or local matters. Cloud is neither here nor there in the situation, and probably something you can't know. It's unlikely that Aloha uses cloud, just based on their old software.
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What about running Nextcloud on the cloud server, only sharing those few files with the management PC, which could have read only access? This way the management PC would have the files locally, and they would always be up to date.
Just an idea, from the hip....
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Syncthing on the reports directory?
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@JasGot said in Automation thought:
What about running Nextcloud on the cloud server, only sharing those few files with the management PC, which could have read only access? This way the management PC would have the files locally, and they would always be up to date.
Just an idea, from the hip....
Would potentially work, But I dont have access to the cloud server.
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@notverypunny said in Automation thought:
Syncthing on the reports directory?
Basically - Moving report directory from the Server to a Manager's PC - Unless I'm understanding what I'm thinking about wrong - which is possible and has happened many times in the past.
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