Unsolved analog video stream
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@DustinB3403 said in analog video stream:
@scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:
@DustinB3403 said in analog video stream:
@scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:
Honestly, grab an iPhone and Facebook Live it. Done.
As easy as that is, it's slapped together which @Mike-Davis wanted to avoid.
I don't know, using analogue is pretty slapped together
I think that the analog conversation came in from the idea of having to connect to a TV using CC cameras.
Exactly
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Which the CCTV solution is still completely do-able, but an ancient way of doing what is asked of.
Streaming is the only current and future forward approach here, even if it is LAN only streaming.
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@Mike-Davis Your basic simple solution is an everyday camcorder with HDMI out and an HDMI splitter.
My Sony Handicam from 2005 had HDMI out, and a remote control. so you don't even need to be able to reach the unit most of the time. Just mount it on the wall. Gives you the option to record even if you put a card in it.
It is buried in a box at the moment or I would hook it up and test it to prove the functionality.
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Have not looked at this, but what about a GoPro? That has HDMI out and has good audio and is super simple to use.
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@scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:
Have not looked at this, but what about a GoPro? That has HDMI out and has good audio and is super simple to use.
Another good choice if the HDMI is active as a "monitor" for the the unit.
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Any budget in mind? If they don't have a computer that you can use for this purpose I would consider buying something like an Intel Nuc and just doing it through IP's. The cost saved by using a Raspberry Pi is going to increase the labor cost. If you're doing it pro-bono (unsure fi you're a member of the church) then that's really up to you.
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@wirestyle22 said in analog video stream:
Any budget in mind? If they don't have a computer that you can use for this purpose I would consider buying something like an Intel Nuc and just doing it through IP's.
Over complicated. The point is to have nothing but the hardware.
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couldn't you do hdmi over ethernet?
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@wirestyle22 said in analog video stream:
couldn't you do hdmi over ethernet?
He can after he splits it sure.
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@wirestyle22 said in analog video stream:
Any budget in mind? If they don't have a computer that you can use for this purpose I would consider buying something like an Intel Nuc and just doing it through IP's. The cost saved by using a Raspberry Pi is going to increase the labor cost. If you're doing it pro-bono (unsure fi you're a member of the church) then that's really up to you.
Budget price for the job I believe is 1000 or under
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So I tested out VLC and OBS. Both are pretty cool and I learned a bit by messing with them. In the end I don't think either will meet my needs for now.
VLC had no problem letting me select my webcam I could see the live video. There was a 1 second delay with the video and audio viewing it locally. Then I set up a http stream and viewed that with VLC player on my laptop. There is a 30 second delay on a wired connection. That would have been acceptable except I couldn't find anyway to view the stream on my Samsung smart TV.
So then I downloaded OBS https://obsproject.com/ Thanks @DustinB3403
This is a cool program that answered another question I had, but in the end doesn't work for this application because there is no way (that I could find) to stream it to a TV. It's set up to stream to commercial stream services, but not to your own. This guy figured out how to put together all the pieces to set up a custom server that VLC can read from, but there again, I can figure out how to get my TV to connect to the stream. https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/custom-stream-option-and-vlc-under-windows-fixed-with-instruction.15925/ -
@Mike-Davis in those cases, you'd not use the TV directly but get a cheaper TV that doesn't have a media system built in and connect it to a Roku or Raspberry Pi or something else simple that will handle the decoding.
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@scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:
@Mike-Davis in those cases, you'd not use the TV directly but get a cheaper TV that doesn't have a media system built in and connect it to a Roku or Raspberry Pi or something else simple that will handle the decoding.
Yes, and again, that gets out of your scope. I seriously think your best choice will be a standard camcorder, HDMI splitter, and long HDMI cables to the other rooms. If Long HDMI is not going to work, then HDMI to Ethernet converters.
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I did notice that running VLC and doing the transcoding was using up 60% of my Xeon CPU, so a faster computer would probably be needed, then we have to deal with running VLC and making sure the Roku picks back up if the stream was interrupted. In my testing if I made a setting change, VLC on the client side just stopped and didn't pick back up even if the stream resumed. So bottom line, I would probably have at least $600-$1000 in to a PC.
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@Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:
I did notice that running VLC and doing the transcoding ...
That's the secret to any of those kinds of things....don't transcode. Transcoding is a massive power user and reduces quality a lot and introduces latency. If you need to transcode, reconsider your sources.
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I think @JaredBusch is right.
I just found this:
Bosch DINION AN 5000 1/3" CCD 960H True D/N WDR Camera Kit with 5-50 mm Lens
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1140425-REG/bosch_f_01u_295_530_dinion_an_5000_1_3.html
Add to that a $120 splitter and some coax cable and I can go straight in to the back of the TV via the composite RCA input.I'm sure for a little more I could find one with a HDMI output and do just what Jared said.
If they ever want to go digital, a $50 capture card in the PC will accept the composite video.
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@Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:
I think @JaredBusch is right.
I just found this:
Bosch DINION AN 5000 1/3" CCD 960H True D/N WDR Camera Kit with 5-50 mm Lens
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1140425-REG/bosch_f_01u_295_530_dinion_an_5000_1_3.html
Add to that a $120 splitter and some coax cable and I can go straight in to the back of the TV via the composite RCA input.I'm sure for a little more I could find one with a HDMI output and do just what Jared said.
If they ever want to go digital, a $50 capture card in the PC will accept the composite video.
That is a security camera and not something you can typically just hook up to a TV. They do not output on a "channel."
You are still over shopping.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534312-REG/Hamilton_HDV5200_1_HDV5200_High_Definition_Digital.html -
The only issue I would expect with a camcorder is turning it on after a power fail or something.
A GoPro Hero 5 will give you bluetooth/wifi acces as well as HDMI out. and is only $400 MSRP.
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GoPro specifically works for broadcasting and is cheaper than the camera you listed.
https://gopro.com/support/articles/best-ways-to-achieve-video-out-signal-via-hdmi -
@JaredBusch said in analog video stream:
GoPro specifically works for broadcasting and is cheaper than the camera you listed.
https://gopro.com/support/articles/best-ways-to-achieve-video-out-signal-via-hdmiAnd GoPro image quality is amazing. I have one, as does @MarigabyFrias and @rob, and we all love them. Even a 2 or a 3 would do a great job. I have a Hero 4 Black and it is definitely significant overkill.
