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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

      @Dashrender said in analog video stream:

      Sounds like Scott knows of some cameras that can do this (I don't recall TV's coming with browsers 15 years ago though).

      But a camera that works with any browser was common even then.

      They were? No need for Java or Flash? or the other crap from Adobe?

      FYI I didn't down vote your post 🙂

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in analog video stream:

        @scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

        @Dashrender said in analog video stream:

        Sounds like Scott knows of some cameras that can do this (I don't recall TV's coming with browsers 15 years ago though).

        But a camera that works with any browser was common even then.

        They were? No need for Java or Flash? or the other crap from Adobe?

        FYI I didn't down vote your post 🙂

        Everything used Java back then. It was standard on everything.

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        • Mike DavisM
          Mike Davis @Dashrender
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          Could we not hijack the tread with a Java discussion? I have my issues with Java as well, but I still don't have a camera recommendation besides a mention that an Axis camera should work. Any other suggestions?

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates
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            I would stay away from IP cameras. Use a real camera with a real mic, or its going to sound like garbled mush. It shard enough to get good sounding sanctuaries let alone using a junk camera/ mic to record with.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              So these are the stream settings I can find in OBS (nothing listed for a local stream)

              0_1479849041560_2016-11-22_16-08-51.png

              Now this doesn't mean you couldn't output to a local streaming server (but this adds complexity and cost)

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
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                @stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

                I would stay away from IP cameras. Use a real camera with a real mic, or its going to sound like garbled mush. It shard enough to get good sounding sanctuaries let alone using a junk camera/ mic to record with.

                Or just put the microphone on the stage and feed that in. An IP mic would work just as well.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
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                  Of course there are people who setup their own RTMP systems to capture and broadcast the stream.

                  But this goes away from the direction of simple, click and go.

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                  • brianlittlejohnB
                    brianlittlejohn
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                    How far apart are the sanctuary and places they want the feed?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      http://www.tp-link.com/us/faq-304.html

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

                        http://www.tp-link.com/us/faq-304.html

                        A wonderfully simple approach to the problem. Just need a web browser. I wonder if there is a time out that needs to be watched out for.

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                        • Mike DavisM
                          Mike Davis
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                          @stacksofplates Can you give me an example of a real camera?

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in analog video stream:

                            @stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

                            I would stay away from IP cameras. Use a real camera with a real mic, or its going to sound like garbled mush. It shard enough to get good sounding sanctuaries let alone using a junk camera/ mic to record with.

                            Or just put the microphone on the stage and feed that in. An IP mic would work just as well.

                            On stage would be really hard to do because you can't get the full range of everything, and if you directly feed in the aux from the mixer you will pick up every pop and hum and off tone person.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              THe audio is definitely a totally different thing. You don't just record anything from a simple camera.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
                                last edited by

                                @stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

                                @DustinB3403 said in analog video stream:

                                @stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

                                I would stay away from IP cameras. Use a real camera with a real mic, or its going to sound like garbled mush. It shard enough to get good sounding sanctuaries let alone using a junk camera/ mic to record with.

                                Or just put the microphone on the stage and feed that in. An IP mic would work just as well.

                                On stage would be really hard to do because you can't get the full range of everything, and if you directly feed in the aux from the mixer you will pick up every pop and hum and off tone person.

                                True... but that is where mic guards come in and audio software. If the end goal is to broadcast the sermon to the audience in different parts of the church than audio will have to be scarified a bit without going to audio studio production types of solutions.

                                Which is outside of the scope and budget for the project.

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @Mike Davis
                                  last edited by

                                  @Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

                                  @stacksofplates Can you give me an example of a real camera?

                                  Canon EOS or Nikon D3100, something not expensive but you can actually get good video with, esp with optical zoom.

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                                  • J
                                    Jason Banned @stacksofplates
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                                    @stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in analog video stream:

                                    @stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

                                    I would stay away from IP cameras. Use a real camera with a real mic, or its going to sound like garbled mush. It shard enough to get good sounding sanctuaries let alone using a junk camera/ mic to record with.

                                    Or just put the microphone on the stage and feed that in. An IP mic would work just as well.

                                    On stage would be really hard to do because you can't get the full range of everything, and if you directly feed in the aux from the mixer you will pick up every pop and hum and off tone person.

                                    Yup you need a sub-mix (digital boards can do this as a matrix, Send etc, analog would have to use an aux mix) but you need an audience mic or two to mix in with it... but they must be delayed based on placement from the speakers

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
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                                      @stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

                                      @Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

                                      @stacksofplates Can you give me an example of a real camera?

                                      Canon EOS or Nikon D3100, something not expensive but you can actually get good video with, esp with optical zoom.

                                      These are not the type of camera needed . . . .

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                                      • Mike DavisM
                                        Mike Davis
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                                        I can probably grab audio from the sound board. It looks like a computer will be involved one way or another, so it will probably be in the sound booth anyways.

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                                        • J
                                          Jason Banned
                                          last edited by

                                          Personally I'd recomend getting a used Sony FS100 or a Panasonic HMC150 used. connecting up HDMI out and sending that over a long HDMI or CAT6 to HDMI system to the TV.

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                                          • J
                                            Jason Banned
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                                            and if they have money to blow:

                                            http://www.vaddio.com/category/live-production-solutions

                                            http://www.vaddio.com/category/vaddio-hd-ptz-cameras

                                            but you will never get the same motion with a PTZ as you will a real camera. They look robotic and fake.

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