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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by

      Of course there are people who setup their own RTMP systems to capture and broadcast the stream.

      But this goes away from the direction of simple, click and go.

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      • brianlittlejohnB
        brianlittlejohn
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        How far apart are the sanctuary and places they want the feed?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          http://www.tp-link.com/us/faq-304.html

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

            http://www.tp-link.com/us/faq-304.html

            A wonderfully simple approach to the problem. Just need a web browser. I wonder if there is a time out that needs to be watched out for.

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            • Mike DavisM
              Mike Davis
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              @stacksofplates Can you give me an example of a real camera?

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in analog video stream:

                @stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

                I would stay away from IP cameras. Use a real camera with a real mic, or its going to sound like garbled mush. It shard enough to get good sounding sanctuaries let alone using a junk camera/ mic to record with.

                Or just put the microphone on the stage and feed that in. An IP mic would work just as well.

                On stage would be really hard to do because you can't get the full range of everything, and if you directly feed in the aux from the mixer you will pick up every pop and hum and off tone person.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  THe audio is definitely a totally different thing. You don't just record anything from a simple camera.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
                    last edited by

                    @stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

                    @DustinB3403 said in analog video stream:

                    @stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

                    I would stay away from IP cameras. Use a real camera with a real mic, or its going to sound like garbled mush. It shard enough to get good sounding sanctuaries let alone using a junk camera/ mic to record with.

                    Or just put the microphone on the stage and feed that in. An IP mic would work just as well.

                    On stage would be really hard to do because you can't get the full range of everything, and if you directly feed in the aux from the mixer you will pick up every pop and hum and off tone person.

                    True... but that is where mic guards come in and audio software. If the end goal is to broadcast the sermon to the audience in different parts of the church than audio will have to be scarified a bit without going to audio studio production types of solutions.

                    Which is outside of the scope and budget for the project.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @Mike Davis
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                      @Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

                      @stacksofplates Can you give me an example of a real camera?

                      Canon EOS or Nikon D3100, something not expensive but you can actually get good video with, esp with optical zoom.

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                        Jason Banned @stacksofplates
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                        @stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

                        @DustinB3403 said in analog video stream:

                        @stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

                        I would stay away from IP cameras. Use a real camera with a real mic, or its going to sound like garbled mush. It shard enough to get good sounding sanctuaries let alone using a junk camera/ mic to record with.

                        Or just put the microphone on the stage and feed that in. An IP mic would work just as well.

                        On stage would be really hard to do because you can't get the full range of everything, and if you directly feed in the aux from the mixer you will pick up every pop and hum and off tone person.

                        Yup you need a sub-mix (digital boards can do this as a matrix, Send etc, analog would have to use an aux mix) but you need an audience mic or two to mix in with it... but they must be delayed based on placement from the speakers

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
                          last edited by

                          @stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

                          @Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

                          @stacksofplates Can you give me an example of a real camera?

                          Canon EOS or Nikon D3100, something not expensive but you can actually get good video with, esp with optical zoom.

                          These are not the type of camera needed . . . .

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                          • Mike DavisM
                            Mike Davis
                            last edited by

                            I can probably grab audio from the sound board. It looks like a computer will be involved one way or another, so it will probably be in the sound booth anyways.

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                            • J
                              Jason Banned
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                              Personally I'd recomend getting a used Sony FS100 or a Panasonic HMC150 used. connecting up HDMI out and sending that over a long HDMI or CAT6 to HDMI system to the TV.

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                                Jason Banned
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                                and if they have money to blow:

                                http://www.vaddio.com/category/live-production-solutions

                                http://www.vaddio.com/category/vaddio-hd-ptz-cameras

                                but you will never get the same motion with a PTZ as you will a real camera. They look robotic and fake.

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in analog video stream:

                                  @stacksofplates said in analog video stream:

                                  @Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

                                  @stacksofplates Can you give me an example of a real camera?

                                  Canon EOS or Nikon D3100, something not expensive but you can actually get good video with, esp with optical zoom.

                                  These are not the type of camera needed . . . .

                                  Many places use them and they are fine.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @Jason
                                    last edited by

                                    @Jason said in analog video stream:

                                    Personally I'd recomend getting a used Sony FS100 or a Panasonic HMC150 used. connecting up HDMI out and sending that over a long HDMI or CAT6 to HDMI system to the TV.

                                    Sadly, this is sounding like the simpliest solution at this time.

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                                    • brianlittlejohnB
                                      brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in analog video stream:

                                      @Jason said in analog video stream:

                                      Personally I'd recomend getting a used Sony FS100 or a Panasonic HMC150 used. connecting up HDMI out and sending that over a long HDMI or CAT6 to HDMI system to the TV.

                                      Sadly, this is sounding like the simpliest solution at this time.

                                      Its for a church so most likely all ran by volunteers, the simpler it is the better.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
                                        last edited by

                                        @brianlittlejohn said in analog video stream:

                                        @Dashrender said in analog video stream:

                                        @Jason said in analog video stream:

                                        Personally I'd recomend getting a used Sony FS100 or a Panasonic HMC150 used. connecting up HDMI out and sending that over a long HDMI or CAT6 to HDMI system to the TV.

                                        Sadly, this is sounding like the simpliest solution at this time.

                                        Its for a church so most likely all ran by volunteers, the simpler it is the better.

                                        It's just that it's so limited - thinking in old terms. How many times have you solved a problem like this only to be asked to make a podcast out of the stream in the future - sure we can do that, we just have to throw away everything we already have and start over, because our analog system wasn't meant for that, or worse, trying to cobble together some solution that's a hack job.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in analog video stream:

                                          @brianlittlejohn said in analog video stream:

                                          @Dashrender said in analog video stream:

                                          @Jason said in analog video stream:

                                          Personally I'd recomend getting a used Sony FS100 or a Panasonic HMC150 used. connecting up HDMI out and sending that over a long HDMI or CAT6 to HDMI system to the TV.

                                          Sadly, this is sounding like the simpliest solution at this time.

                                          Its for a church so most likely all ran by volunteers, the simpler it is the better.

                                          It's just that it's so limited - thinking in old terms. How many times have you solved a problem like this only to be asked to make a podcast out of the stream in the future - sure we can do that, we just have to throw away everything we already have and start over, because our analog system wasn't meant for that, or worse, trying to cobble together some solution that's a hack job.

                                          I think Dash is right. I totally get the "keep it simple" point, but that's just setting yourself for being blamed for problems in a few days or years.

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                                          • brianlittlejohnB
                                            brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

                                            @Dashrender said in analog video stream:

                                            @brianlittlejohn said in analog video stream:

                                            @Dashrender said in analog video stream:

                                            @Jason said in analog video stream:

                                            Personally I'd recomend getting a used Sony FS100 or a Panasonic HMC150 used. connecting up HDMI out and sending that over a long HDMI or CAT6 to HDMI system to the TV.

                                            Sadly, this is sounding like the simpliest solution at this time.

                                            Its for a church so most likely all ran by volunteers, the simpler it is the better.

                                            It's just that it's so limited - thinking in old terms. How many times have you solved a problem like this only to be asked to make a podcast out of the stream in the future - sure we can do that, we just have to throw away everything we already have and start over, because our analog system wasn't meant for that, or worse, trying to cobble together some solution that's a hack job.

                                            I think Dash is right. I totally get the "keep it simple" point, but that's just setting yourself for being blamed for problems in a few days or years.

                                            Why over complicate (and possibly overspend) on something for a situation that may or may not happen?

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