Huge Mistake
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@WrCombs We all make mistakes. Just important to learn from them and hope they don't bite you in the rear too much. Personally I wouldnt have liked boss's plan either, too much at stake to rely on suboptimal raid if I understand what he meant.
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@jmoore said in Huge Mistake:
@WrCombs We all make mistakes. Just important to learn from them and hope they don't bite you in the rear too much. Personally I wouldnt have liked boss's plan either, too much at stake to rely on suboptimal raid if I understand what he meant.
I'm guessing you did : but the idea was to format a drive to start with something brand new, and let the good Drive rebuild it .
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@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
So let me start this off by saying if I hadn't listened to my boss first thing this morning, this mistake wouldn't have happened. but god forbid he say he was wrong.
This is another way to say that "he made a mistake" and it wouldn't have happened if you had stopped it. That's true of any mistake
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@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
@IRJ said in Huge Mistake:
We have all done stupid shit like this in our careers, and that is not really the issue here. I am worried about you passing on the blame to your boss as a maturity issue.
In no way shape or form can you blame the boss for this. It's on you 100% and that is ok because it happens ONCE or maybe twice. But you need to man up to the mistake, or else you will never grow as an IT professional. There is a reason why IT veterans like myself verify 3 or 4 times and click once. We have made the mistake before, but we learned from it.
Take ownership on this one, bud.
I already took ownership of it and am Trying to fix it
You are still trying to blame your boss, in the very first fucking sentence.
@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
So let me start this off by saying if I hadn't listened to my boss first thing this morning, this mistake wouldn't have happened. but god forbid he say he was wrong.
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@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
Brought the PC back, boss told me to stop, he has an idea.
Reformat one of the Hard drives we have hereFYI... RAID overwrites everything. You never need to prep a drive to be added to a RAID array because, by definition, everything on the drive has to be wiped from the action of joining the array.
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@scottalanmiller said in Huge Mistake:
@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
Brought the PC back, boss told me to stop, he has an idea.
Reformat one of the Hard drives we have hereFYI... RAID overwrites everything. You never need to prep a drive to be added to a RAID array because, by definition, everything on the drive has to be wiped from the action of joining the array.
Fake RAID does all kinds of stupid.
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@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
So I added the other drive to the PC. Little did I know (nor did I check) the Optical drive was set to boot first (which is where I added this Drive to the PC ). It came up as
and the PC I wanted to load as loaded as 
I truly hate Windows letter naming system. It's so dumb. Both fundamentally as a way to present drives, and it's so random in how it presents them. You can never trust it.
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@JaredBusch said in Huge Mistake:
@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
@IRJ said in Huge Mistake:
We have all done stupid shit like this in our careers, and that is not really the issue here. I am worried about you passing on the blame to your boss as a maturity issue.
In no way shape or form can you blame the boss for this. It's on you 100% and that is ok because it happens ONCE or maybe twice. But you need to man up to the mistake, or else you will never grow as an IT professional. There is a reason why IT veterans like myself verify 3 or 4 times and click once. We have made the mistake before, but we learned from it.
Take ownership on this one, bud.
I already took ownership of it and am Trying to fix it
You are still trying to blame your boss, in the very first fucking sentence.
@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
So let me start this off by saying if I hadn't listened to my boss first thing this morning, this mistake wouldn't have happened. but god forbid he say he was wrong.Yeah, Cause this has every part of him being wrong as I do, because he told me to change my plan and do it his way.
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@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
@Obsolesce said in Huge Mistake:
Not your boss' fault. Know what you are formatting before you format.
If i Followed the original plan, it wouldn't have happened at all - There would have been no formatting what-so-ever involved.
Sometimes you have to format. A common pattern for safety with that is to format on a device that has no data. Example... old worthless PC that boots to a Linux Live USB and it's always safe to format anything that gets plugged into it. A pain for a one off, but if you do it with ANY regularity, you'll appreciate the safety it provides.
Good for data recovery needs, too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Huge Mistake:
@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
Brought the PC back, boss told me to stop, he has an idea.
Reformat one of the Hard drives we have hereFYI... RAID overwrites everything. You never need to prep a drive to be added to a RAID array because, by definition, everything on the drive has to be wiped from the action of joining the array.
I think his point was "To make sure I dont overwrite the wrong drive.."
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@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
@JaredBusch said in Huge Mistake:
@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
@IRJ said in Huge Mistake:
We have all done stupid shit like this in our careers, and that is not really the issue here. I am worried about you passing on the blame to your boss as a maturity issue.
In no way shape or form can you blame the boss for this. It's on you 100% and that is ok because it happens ONCE or maybe twice. But you need to man up to the mistake, or else you will never grow as an IT professional. There is a reason why IT veterans like myself verify 3 or 4 times and click once. We have made the mistake before, but we learned from it.
Take ownership on this one, bud.
I already took ownership of it and am Trying to fix it
You are still trying to blame your boss, in the very first fucking sentence.
@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
So let me start this off by saying if I hadn't listened to my boss first thing this morning, this mistake wouldn't have happened. but god forbid he say he was wrong.Yeah, Cause this has every part of him being wrong as I do, because he told me to change my plan and do it his way.
My fault was not verifying what I was doing.There was zero mistakes made by your boss. You fucked up.
If you cannot handle someone telling you to try something a different way without fucking it all up, just STFU and get out.
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@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
@JaredBusch said in Huge Mistake:
@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
@IRJ said in Huge Mistake:
We have all done stupid shit like this in our careers, and that is not really the issue here. I am worried about you passing on the blame to your boss as a maturity issue.
In no way shape or form can you blame the boss for this. It's on you 100% and that is ok because it happens ONCE or maybe twice. But you need to man up to the mistake, or else you will never grow as an IT professional. There is a reason why IT veterans like myself verify 3 or 4 times and click once. We have made the mistake before, but we learned from it.
Take ownership on this one, bud.
I already took ownership of it and am Trying to fix it
You are still trying to blame your boss, in the very first fucking sentence.
@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
So let me start this off by saying if I hadn't listened to my boss first thing this morning, this mistake wouldn't have happened. but god forbid he say he was wrong.Yeah, Cause this has every part of him being wrong as I do, because he told me to change my plan and do it his way.
My fault was not verifying what I was doing.That's just not true man. Your boss didn't say anything that is wrong he made you change what you were doing. Maybe this threw you for a loop, but it's up to you to organize your thoughts and make sure you fully understand what you are doing. It's okay to make mistakes. It's not okay to not take responsibility for them. Trying to share responsibility, when you are the only person responsible, is not taking responsibility.
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Guess that Makes Sense, Had I have not listened I wouldn't be in this situation, but I did and Still ended up having an issue.
So Yeah, it's my Fault, I fucked up, I already told my bosses boss that before i even got online.In my mind, Had I have done it the right way the first time, I wouldn't be in this situation, but since we have to try and Screw over our customers as much as possible, and not do it the right way, and just replace both hard drives, for billable time to the customer, he made that decision. Guess My thought process was wrong .
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@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
In my mind, Had I have done it the right way the first time, I wouldn't be in this situation,
We don't know why your boss made the decision he did, and honestly, it doesn't matter. Your comment I quoted above makes it sound like you are still trying to blame him. Aside from morals and ethics, which we cannot surmise from what has been stated here, there is no reason to believe his way was wrong and your way was right. They are both workable solutions.
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@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
In my mind, Had I have done it the right way the first time, I wouldn't be in this situation, but since we have to try and Screw over our customers as much as possible, and not do it the right way, and just replace both hard drives, for billable time to the customer, he made that decision. Guess My thought process was wrong .
Part of the problem, I think, is that you are associating what you wanted to do with "the right way" and not "an optional way", which therefore makes your' boss' way the "wrong way" by definition, when it was not wrong. Both ways are optional ways.
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@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
but since we have to try and Screw over our customers as much as possible, and not do it the right way, and just replace both hard drives
While often that appears to be the logic, how did this screw over the customer here? Wasn't this going to get the customer up faster and cheaper?
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@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
Guess that Makes Sense, Had I have not listened I wouldn't be in this situation, but I did and Still ended up having an issue.
So Yeah, it's my Fault, I fucked up, I already told my bosses boss that before i even got online.In my mind, Had I have done it the right way the first time, I wouldn't be in this situation, but since we have to try and Screw over our customers as much as possible, and not do it the right way, and just replace both hard drives, for billable time to the customer, he made that decision. Guess My thought process was wrong .
If you verified the drives before you attempted to format you wouldn't be in this position. Your boss has nothing to do with it. Have you ever worked with someone who blamed everyone else for their mistakes? Does anyone ever respect that person? Again, there is no one here who hasn't made mistakes. It's how you process your mistakes that defines you. Take ownership of the situation and instead of just being the problem ALSO be the solution. Grow from it.
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If we were at someplace like Bridgewater, we'd take a moment to post mortem and talk about what actually went wrong...
For example... did the boss' change of plan cause you to rush or get flustered? If so, learning to recognize when that is happening to you and take a minute to breath, focus, and compose yourself can go a long way. Or simply being able to say "I can't handle a last minute change, this is when I make mistakes." Lots of people can't plan for something then change last minute, because if you are like me, certain steps are already verified or checked off in your brain that the new plan might not account for.
In the original plan there were safety measures, did the boss tell you to skip those, too? Or did you skip them by accident?
Was the boss' plan to format the drive meant to be done with both drives in there currently?
Did you let the system do its own format that is automatic, required, and would meet the boss' plan, or was the additional step an assumption that turned out to not be needed?
There's a lot to delve into to try to figure out where and when mistake(s) were made, and how to try to hedge against them in the future.
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@scottalanmiller said in Huge Mistake:
@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
but since we have to try and Screw over our customers as much as possible, and not do it the right way, and just replace both hard drives
While often that appears to be the logic, how did this screw over the customer here? Wasn't this going to get the customer up faster and cheaper?
It was my understanding that the customer was planning on buying new hard drives since we couldn't put a Western Digital with a Seagate.
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@JasGot said in Huge Mistake:
@WrCombs said in Huge Mistake:
In my mind, Had I have done it the right way the first time, I wouldn't be in this situation,
We don't know why your boss made the decision he did, and honestly, it doesn't matter. Your comment I quoted above makes it sound like you are still trying to blame him. Aside from morals and ethics, which we cannot surmise from what has been stated here, there is no reason to believe his way was wrong and your way was right. They are both workable solutions.
So again, My thought process was wrong.
Which is at the end of that Statement, I was merely explaining why I thought what I thought.
