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    • WrCombsW
      WrCombs
      last edited by

      okay
      ran this from edgerouter cli

      configure
      set system conntrack sip disable
      commit
      save
      exit
      

      So we will see if that resolves the issue.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Good learning experience on how to modify that setting.

        We do a load of phones, and tons of specifically those routers, and we've yet to see SIP-ALG break anything on them. They are unique in that respect, from what we've seen. SIP-ALG traditionally is the SIP blocker (for no good reason.)

        But the issue you are seeing is almost certainly with the phone provider.

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        • WrCombsW
          WrCombs @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

          Good learning experience on how to modify that setting.

          We do a load of phones, and tons of specifically those routers, and we've yet to see SIP-ALG break anything on them. They are unique in that respect, from what we've seen. SIP-ALG traditionally is the SIP blocker (for no good reason.)

          But the issue you are seeing is almost certainly with the phone provider.

          It cleared up the phone quality a little bit, but they're telling me it's my firewall, even after shutting that off, and running a restart just to be safe.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @WrCombs
            last edited by

            @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

            @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

            Good learning experience on how to modify that setting.

            We do a load of phones, and tons of specifically those routers, and we've yet to see SIP-ALG break anything on them. They are unique in that respect, from what we've seen. SIP-ALG traditionally is the SIP blocker (for no good reason.)

            But the issue you are seeing is almost certainly with the phone provider.

            It cleared up the phone quality a little bit, but they're telling me it's my firewall, even after shutting that off, and running a restart just to be safe.

            Yeah, every scam phone company that can't figure out how to manage phones says that. We deal with that all the time. We generally tell customers to just take their existing phone, attach it to a good service, and see how it works perfectly with no network changes. Then they realize that they were being scammed and fire the con artists.

            You are just stuck that they don't know how to fix their phone system and you aren't the boss so can't fire them.

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            • WrCombsW
              WrCombs @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

              @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

              @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

              Good learning experience on how to modify that setting.

              We do a load of phones, and tons of specifically those routers, and we've yet to see SIP-ALG break anything on them. They are unique in that respect, from what we've seen. SIP-ALG traditionally is the SIP blocker (for no good reason.)

              But the issue you are seeing is almost certainly with the phone provider.

              It cleared up the phone quality a little bit, but they're telling me it's my firewall, even after shutting that off, and running a restart just to be safe.

              Yeah, every scam phone company that can't figure out how to manage phones says that. We deal with that all the time. We generally tell customers to just take their existing phone, attach it to a good service, and see how it works perfectly with no network changes. Then they realize that they were being scammed and fire the con artists.

              You are just stuck that they don't know how to fix their phone system and you aren't the boss so can't fire them.

              basically

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @WrCombs
                last edited by

                @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                Good learning experience on how to modify that setting.

                We do a load of phones, and tons of specifically those routers, and we've yet to see SIP-ALG break anything on them. They are unique in that respect, from what we've seen. SIP-ALG traditionally is the SIP blocker (for no good reason.)

                But the issue you are seeing is almost certainly with the phone provider.

                It cleared up the phone quality a little bit, but they're telling me it's my firewall, even after shutting that off, and running a restart just to be safe.

                Yeah, every scam phone company that can't figure out how to manage phones says that. We deal with that all the time. We generally tell customers to just take their existing phone, attach it to a good service, and see how it works perfectly with no network changes. Then they realize that they were being scammed and fire the con artists.

                You are just stuck that they don't know how to fix their phone system and you aren't the boss so can't fire them.

                basically

                It's an awesome sales tactic because it's black and white. Customers instantly know that they aren't dealing with telephone engineers, but just sales people looking for the easy sale and when things break, they get left without support or options.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @WrCombs
                  last edited by

                  @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                  @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                  Running an EdgeRouter Lite

                  But what about the firewall that blocks traffic to the PBX?

                  No idea what that is, but that's controlled by the company. I took this the guys who work with them on these issues, I got a few complaints from customers while on the phone with them.. had to call from the Cell phone it's self so they could understand and here me.. Saw these errors after restarting the apps. Thought I'd see if this was something wrong with my firewall are not..

                  Not what you've said in the past - you said your company hired the firewall services out so they would have a "managed" firewall situation.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    As a test, plug your laptop directly into the Cable modem (you'll have to reboot the cable modem for it to recognize the new connection, and try it - if it still has issues, you know it's not your ER-L.

                    One could argue that the windows firewall was the issue, but that seems very unlikely.

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                    • WrCombsW
                      WrCombs @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in Soft Phone issues:

                      @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                      @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                      Running an EdgeRouter Lite

                      But what about the firewall that blocks traffic to the PBX?

                      No idea what that is, but that's controlled by the company. I took this the guys who work with them on these issues, I got a few complaints from customers while on the phone with them.. had to call from the Cell phone it's self so they could understand and here me.. Saw these errors after restarting the apps. Thought I'd see if this was something wrong with my firewall are not..

                      Not what you've said in the past - you said your company hired the firewall services out so they would have a "managed" firewall situation.

                      for our customers.

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                      • WrCombsW
                        WrCombs @WrCombs
                        last edited by

                        @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                        @Dashrender said in Soft Phone issues:

                        @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                        @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                        Running an EdgeRouter Lite

                        But what about the firewall that blocks traffic to the PBX?

                        No idea what that is, but that's controlled by the company. I took this the guys who work with them on these issues, I got a few complaints from customers while on the phone with them.. had to call from the Cell phone it's self so they could understand and here me.. Saw these errors after restarting the apps. Thought I'd see if this was something wrong with my firewall are not..

                        Not what you've said in the past - you said your company hired the firewall services out so they would have a "managed" firewall situation.

                        for our customers.

                        and Vast controls the firewall for us at the office so its "managed"

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          Where is your PBX located?

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                          • WrCombsW
                            WrCombs @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in Soft Phone issues:

                            Where is your PBX located?

                            I dont have that information.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @WrCombs
                              last edited by

                              @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                              @Dashrender said in Soft Phone issues:

                              Where is your PBX located?

                              I dont have that information.

                              how does your softphone get set up?

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                              • WrCombsW
                                WrCombs @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                                @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                                @Dashrender said in Soft Phone issues:

                                Where is your PBX located?

                                I dont have that information.

                                how does your softphone get set up?

                                through an app

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said in Soft Phone issues:

                                  @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                                  @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                                  Running an EdgeRouter Lite

                                  But what about the firewall that blocks traffic to the PBX?

                                  No idea what that is, but that's controlled by the company. I took this the guys who work with them on these issues, I got a few complaints from customers while on the phone with them.. had to call from the Cell phone it's self so they could understand and here me.. Saw these errors after restarting the apps. Thought I'd see if this was something wrong with my firewall are not..

                                  Not what you've said in the past - you said your company hired the firewall services out so they would have a "managed" firewall situation.

                                  Where "managed" = "finger pointing."

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                                  • WrCombsW
                                    WrCombs @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                                    @Dashrender said in Soft Phone issues:

                                    @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                                    @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                                    Running an EdgeRouter Lite

                                    But what about the firewall that blocks traffic to the PBX?

                                    No idea what that is, but that's controlled by the company. I took this the guys who work with them on these issues, I got a few complaints from customers while on the phone with them.. had to call from the Cell phone it's self so they could understand and here me.. Saw these errors after restarting the apps. Thought I'd see if this was something wrong with my firewall are not..

                                    Not what you've said in the past - you said your company hired the firewall services out so they would have a "managed" firewall situation.

                                    Where "managed" = "finger pointing."

                                    basically

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @WrCombs
                                      last edited by

                                      @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                                      @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                                      @Dashrender said in Soft Phone issues:

                                      Where is your PBX located?

                                      I dont have that information.

                                      how does your softphone get set up?

                                      through an app

                                      Oh, you don't enter the details?

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                                      • WrCombsW
                                        WrCombs @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                                        @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                                        @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                                        @Dashrender said in Soft Phone issues:

                                        Where is your PBX located?

                                        I dont have that information.

                                        how does your softphone get set up?

                                        through an app

                                        Oh, you don't enter the details?

                                        we enter our phone number and password

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @WrCombs
                                          last edited by

                                          @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                                          @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                                          @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                                          @Dashrender said in Soft Phone issues:

                                          Where is your PBX located?

                                          I dont have that information.

                                          how does your softphone get set up?

                                          through an app

                                          Oh, you don't enter the details?

                                          we enter our phone number and password

                                          And not a server address?

                                          What app are you using on the phone?

                                          I know Bria, for example, can supply the server info to the clients - they are a heavily managed SIP client.

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                                          • WrCombsW
                                            WrCombs @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in Soft Phone issues:

                                            @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                                            @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Soft Phone issues:

                                            @WrCombs said in Soft Phone issues:

                                            @Dashrender said in Soft Phone issues:

                                            Where is your PBX located?

                                            I dont have that information.

                                            how does your softphone get set up?

                                            through an app

                                            Oh, you don't enter the details?

                                            we enter our phone number and password

                                            And not a server address?

                                            What app are you using on the phone?

                                            I know Bria, for example, can supply the server info to the clients - they are a heavily managed SIP client.

                                            it's called the Vast Communicator.
                                            No server address

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