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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @manxam
      last edited by

      @manxam said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

      @Dashrender : I literally JUST went through this with a client. All GPO's configured to monitor sleep & lock after 15 minutes which, after a fresh reboot, was stable.
      Once the monitor went to sleep and was wakened, the systems would go to full sleep every 2 minutes.
      I had to apply the same registry "hack" via GPO.

      This was extremely annoying to the staff and made us look pretty incompetent as the control panel, powercfg.exe, etc all showed that the settings were being applied properly.

      Ugh..

      Hey
      @manxam enabling this via GPO only makes the setting visible. Did your users then have to manually set it?

      I'm trying to find a way to set the actual setting to a value using GPO - did you find one?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by Dashrender

        I think I've figured it out.

        The dwords need to be replaced with the hex value you want for the auto sleep after wakeup with no user interaction to kick in.
        The value set in my example is 120 seconds (the default). You should make your values higher than your normal sleep timeout. Example, if sleep is set after 15 mins, you should use dword:00000384

        The three different sections are for

         [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0]
         "Attributes"=dword:00000002
        
        [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e]
        "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
        "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
        
        [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c]
        "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
        "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
        
        [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\a1841308-3541-4fab-bc81-f71556f20b4a]
        "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
        "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
        
        
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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          Sigh - these registry settings don't fix the issue.

          And I'm starting to get more users complaining about this issue.

          So far I only seem to be able to fix it manually via the GUI.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by Dashrender

            I figure I owe an update here.

            These reg entries are in hex... 00000078 = 120 (seconds) in decimal. i.e. 2 mins.. sigh I completely over looked this. No wonder the times weren't changing.

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            • WrCombsW
              WrCombs @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

              I think I've figured it out.

              The dwords need to be replaced with the hex value you want for the auto sleep after wakeup with no user interaction to kick in.
              The value set in my example is 120 seconds (the default). You should make your values higher than your normal sleep timeout. Example, if sleep is set after 15 mins, you should use dword:00000384

              The three different sections are for

               [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0]
               "Attributes"=dword:00000002
              
              [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e]
              "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
              "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
              
              [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c]
              "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
              "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
              
              [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\a1841308-3541-4fab-bc81-f71556f20b4a]
              "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
              "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
              
              

              So would the answer be 0 if you never want the device to Sleep?

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              • kamidonK
                kamidon
                last edited by kamidon

                I had this issue with my HP Omen, but it went away after going back to Windows from Fedora...when I failed miserably to play games on Linux....lol

                My workaround was just to turn sleep mode off. I just did this via the GUI in settings.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @kamidon
                  last edited by

                  @kamidon said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                  My workaround was just to turn sleep mode off. I just did this via the GUI in settings.

                  Yeah disabling sleep mode would solve the issue.

                  @WrCombs said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                  So would the answer be 0 if you never want the device to Sleep?

                  That's a good question - nothing I ran into showed that as an option. Everything pointed to just making it longer.

                  But this is a non issue if you disable Sleep mode completely.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                    Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                      Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                      Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                      Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

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                      • wrx7mW
                        wrx7m @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                        @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                        Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                        Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                        Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                        Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco @wrx7m
                          last edited by

                          @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                          @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                          @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                          Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                          Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                          Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                          Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                          Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

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                          • WrCombsW
                            WrCombs @RojoLoco
                            last edited by

                            @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                            Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                            Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                            Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                            Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                            powercfg-hibernate off
                            

                            is what you're thinking ?

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                            • wrx7mW
                              wrx7m @RojoLoco
                              last edited by wrx7m

                              @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                              Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                              Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                              Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                              Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                              I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @wrx7m
                                last edited by

                                @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

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                                • wrx7mW
                                  wrx7m @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                  Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                  Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                  Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                  Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                  I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                  You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                                  Ahhh. I see.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                    Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                    Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                    Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                    Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                    I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                    You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                                    Nope - not according to MS
                                    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                      Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                      Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                      Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                      Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                      I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                      You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                                      Nope - not according to MS
                                      https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

                                      You read that wrong. it is 100% hibernation. The only thing that article states is that unlike user requested hibernation, it closes all applications first.

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                                        JasGot @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                        Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                        Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                        Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                        Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                        I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                        You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                                        Nope - not according to MS
                                        https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

                                        "... a fast startup simply loads the hibernation file (Hiberfil.sys) into memory to restore the previously saved image of the Windows kernel and loaded drivers."

                                        This is a hibernation explanation is its simplest form.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                          Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                          Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                          Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                          Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                          I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                          You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                                          Nope - not according to MS
                                          https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

                                          You read that wrong. it is 100% hibernation. The only thing that article states is that unlike user requested hibernation, it closes all applications first.

                                          Well that seems right on the verge of pointless. The OS itself doesn't take long to come up, and if my state is all lost, I've gone through 95% of the effort of powering down with only 10% of the benefit.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                            Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                            Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                            Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                            Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                            I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                            You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                                            Nope - not according to MS
                                            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

                                            You read that wrong. it is 100% hibernation. The only thing that article states is that unlike user requested hibernation, it closes all applications first.

                                            Well that seems right on the verge of pointless. The OS itself doesn't take long to come up, and if my state is all lost, I've gone through 95% of the effort of powering down with only 10% of the benefit.

                                            Exactly - and as such is why it's not hibernation.

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