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    • jmooreJ
      jmoore @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @dashrender Thanks that is interesting. I've encountered that a few times but not often. Had no idea why it showed up a little and not all the time.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @jmoore
        last edited by

        @jmoore said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

        @dashrender Thanks that is interesting. I've encountered that a few times but not often. Had no idea why it showed up a little and not all the time.

        This is the most frustrating part - I have 100 PCs, but only two people complaining about the problem. The second one is only today. It's likely/possible that others just aren't reporting it.

        The problem also temporarily goes away when you reboot. It only happens (the system going into sleep after 2 mins of inactivity) after the system goes into sleep mode following the listed times (in my case 15 mins). I.e. the user goes to lunch or leaves desk for a while, returns, they wake it up, now it will go to sleep after 2 mins of inactivity. but if they reboot, it's fine, until it goes back to sleep after 15 mins of inactivity.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          The main user who was having this issue is now reporting that the problem seems to be resolved.

          While I'm sure it's overkill, I need to find the actual registry entry that's changed when the setting is modified, not just the setting that makes the the option appear in the control panel applet. Then deploy it via GPO - just squash this bug!

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          • jmooreJ
            jmoore @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @dashrender Yeah good idea. I've experimented with setting these people to the High Performance power setting. So far no one has complained but its not enough time yet to know anything definitive yet.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
              last edited by

              The issue only appears after the computer goes into sleep mode. If your high performance option basically killed sleep mode, then it's no wonder they have no issues.

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                manxam @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender : I literally JUST went through this with a client. All GPO's configured to monitor sleep & lock after 15 minutes which, after a fresh reboot, was stable.
                Once the monitor went to sleep and was wakened, the systems would go to full sleep every 2 minutes.
                I had to apply the same registry "hack" via GPO.

                This was extremely annoying to the staff and made us look pretty incompetent as the control panel, powercfg.exe, etc all showed that the settings were being applied properly.

                Ugh..

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @manxam
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                  @manxam said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                  @Dashrender : I literally JUST went through this with a client. All GPO's configured to monitor sleep & lock after 15 minutes which, after a fresh reboot, was stable.
                  Once the monitor went to sleep and was wakened, the systems would go to full sleep every 2 minutes.
                  I had to apply the same registry "hack" via GPO.

                  This was extremely annoying to the staff and made us look pretty incompetent as the control panel, powercfg.exe, etc all showed that the settings were being applied properly.

                  Ugh..

                  Yeah the hidden setting is just dumb!!

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @manxam
                    last edited by

                    @manxam said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                    @Dashrender : I literally JUST went through this with a client. All GPO's configured to monitor sleep & lock after 15 minutes which, after a fresh reboot, was stable.
                    Once the monitor went to sleep and was wakened, the systems would go to full sleep every 2 minutes.
                    I had to apply the same registry "hack" via GPO.

                    This was extremely annoying to the staff and made us look pretty incompetent as the control panel, powercfg.exe, etc all showed that the settings were being applied properly.

                    Ugh..

                    Hey
                    @manxam enabling this via GPO only makes the setting visible. Did your users then have to manually set it?

                    I'm trying to find a way to set the actual setting to a value using GPO - did you find one?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by Dashrender

                      I think I've figured it out.

                      The dwords need to be replaced with the hex value you want for the auto sleep after wakeup with no user interaction to kick in.
                      The value set in my example is 120 seconds (the default). You should make your values higher than your normal sleep timeout. Example, if sleep is set after 15 mins, you should use dword:00000384

                      The three different sections are for

                       [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0]
 "Attributes"=dword:00000002

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e]
"AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
"DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c]
"AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
"DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\a1841308-3541-4fab-bc81-f71556f20b4a]
"AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
"DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        Sigh - these registry settings don't fix the issue.

                        And I'm starting to get more users complaining about this issue.

                        So far I only seem to be able to fix it manually via the GUI.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
                          last edited by Dashrender

                          I figure I owe an update here.

                          These reg entries are in hex... 00000078 = 120 (seconds) in decimal. i.e. 2 mins.. sigh I completely over looked this. No wonder the times weren't changing.

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                          • WrCombsW
                            WrCombs @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            I think I've figured it out.

                            The dwords need to be replaced with the hex value you want for the auto sleep after wakeup with no user interaction to kick in.
                            The value set in my example is 120 seconds (the default). You should make your values higher than your normal sleep timeout. Example, if sleep is set after 15 mins, you should use dword:00000384

                            The three different sections are for

                             [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0]
 "Attributes"=dword:00000002

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e]
"AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
"DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c]
"AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
"DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\a1841308-3541-4fab-bc81-f71556f20b4a]
"AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078
"DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078

                            So would the answer be 0 if you never want the device to Sleep?

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                            • kamidonK
                              kamidon
                              last edited by kamidon

                              I had this issue with my HP Omen, but it went away after going back to Windows from Fedora...when I failed miserably to play games on Linux....lol

                              My workaround was just to turn sleep mode off. I just did this via the GUI in settings.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @kamidon
                                last edited by

                                @kamidon said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                My workaround was just to turn sleep mode off. I just did this via the GUI in settings.

                                Yeah disabling sleep mode would solve the issue.

                                @WrCombs said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                So would the answer be 0 if you never want the device to Sleep?

                                That's a good question - nothing I ran into showed that as an option. Everything pointed to just making it longer.

                                But this is a non issue if you disable Sleep mode completely.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                  Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                    Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                    Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                    Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

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                                    • wrx7mW
                                      wrx7m @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                      Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                      Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                      Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

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                                      • RojoLocoR
                                        RojoLoco @wrx7m
                                        last edited by

                                        @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                        Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                        Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                        Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                        Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

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                                        • WrCombsW
                                          WrCombs @RojoLoco
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                                          @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                          Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                          Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                          Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                          Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                          powercfg-hibernate off

                                          is what you're thinking ?

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                                          • wrx7mW
                                            wrx7m @RojoLoco
                                            last edited by wrx7m

                                            @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                            Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                            Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                            Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                            Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                            I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

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