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    Linux OS Thoughts?

    Water Closet
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    • notverypunnyN
      notverypunny
      last edited by

      All depends on what you want to learn and how much breakage you're willing to deal with.

      Everyone on here (myself included) is likely to have a certain bias for their own preferred flavor. Check out distrowatch if you haven't already done so for reviews and information on any of the suggestions offered.

      Linux has come a long way from when I started using Slackware back around 2002. From there I went to Kubuntu, Sabayon, Mint and now Manjaro (Cinnamon) on desktop / laptops. Work has been mostly Ubuntu and Debian with some centos and centos-based products (xenserver) in the mix.

      To come back to your question, it depends on whether you're looking to learn from a work-skills perspective or personal curiosity. If you want to do a real deep-dive you could do Linux from Scratch, Gentoo or Arch....

      My personal recommendation (bias included) is to run Manjaro Cinnamon and use KVM or VirtualBox to experiment with other distros.
      Reasons:

      • Rolling release is awesome
      • It's close to bleeding edge, but still very stable
      • AUR is like PPAs but so much better.
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      • black3dynamiteB
        black3dynamite @dafyre
        last edited by

        @dafyre said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

        I saw a couple of mentions of Laptops... Ubuntu 19.10 supposedly ships with NVIDIA drivers that play nicely with the Intel+NVIDIA type graphics setups. I haven't tried this... yet... but I am definitely planning on it!

        Pop! OS is another too. They provide two different images, Intel/AMD and Nvidia.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
          last edited by

          The best thing is to run a full Linux desktop that makes every point and click the same as windows.

          The point is to make the day to day tasks transparent in the change.

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          • WrCombsW
            WrCombs @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

            @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

            @Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

            Back to the OP.

            @WrCombs wants to things most likely...

            a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.

            yes.
            I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.

            Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.

            sounds like the likely chose..
            I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides?

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22
              last edited by wirestyle22

              Fedora w/ Cinnamon for a desktop. Haven't found anything that really comes close.

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              • WrCombsW
                WrCombs @WrCombs
                last edited by

                @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                @Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                Back to the OP.

                @WrCombs wants to things most likely...

                a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.

                yes.
                I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.

                Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.

                sounds like the likely chose..
                I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides?

                for installing KVM ;
                I'll start another list of projects that I'm going to work on and go from there

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                  The best thing is to run a full Linux desktop that makes every point and click the same as windows.

                  The point is to make the day to day tasks transparent in the change.

                  Cinnamon isn't totally identical, but it gives the same look and feel to Windows 7.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @WrCombs
                    last edited by

                    @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                    @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                    @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                    @Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                    Back to the OP.

                    @WrCombs wants to things most likely...

                    a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.

                    yes.
                    I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.

                    Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.

                    sounds like the likely chose..
                    I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides?

                    for installing KVM ;
                    I'll start another list of projects that I'm going to work on and go from there

                    https://computingforgeeks.com/how-to-install-kvm-on-fedora/

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                    • WrCombsW
                      WrCombs @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                      @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                      @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                      @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                      @Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                      Back to the OP.

                      @WrCombs wants to things most likely...

                      a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.

                      yes.
                      I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.

                      Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.

                      sounds like the likely chose..
                      I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides?

                      for installing KVM ;
                      I'll start another list of projects that I'm going to work on and go from there

                      https://computingforgeeks.com/how-to-install-kvm-on-fedora/

                      thank ya

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        And here is Fedora 30 Cinnamon...

                        https://spins.fedoraproject.org/cinnamon/download/index.html

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          Fedora 31 should be out around next week. It was due this week, but has been slightly delayed.

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                          • WrCombsW
                            WrCombs @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                            Fedora 31 should be out around next week. It was due this week, but has been slightly delayed.

                            *should I stick with 30 or move to 31? *
                            /typed then face palmed

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @WrCombs
                              last edited by

                              @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                              Fedora 31 should be out around next week. It was due this week, but has been slightly delayed.

                              *should I stick with 30 or move to 31? *
                              /typed then face palmed

                              Install 30, update to 31 in a few days. The update process is educational, too.

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                              • WrCombsW
                                WrCombs @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                Fedora 31 should be out around next week. It was due this week, but has been slightly delayed.

                                *should I stick with 30 or move to 31? *
                                /typed then face palmed

                                Install 30, update to 31 in a few days. The update process is educational, too.

                                that's why I faced palmed.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                  @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                  @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                  @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                  @Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                  Back to the OP.

                                  @WrCombs wants to things most likely...

                                  a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.

                                  yes.
                                  I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.

                                  Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.

                                  sounds like the likely chose..
                                  I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides?

                                  for installing KVM ;
                                  I'll start another list of projects that I'm going to work on and go from there

                                  https://computingforgeeks.com/how-to-install-kvm-on-fedora/

                                  Did I not have a guide here on ML?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                    @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                    @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                    @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                    @Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                    Back to the OP.

                                    @WrCombs wants to things most likely...

                                    a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.

                                    yes.
                                    I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.

                                    Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.

                                    sounds like the likely chose..
                                    I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides?

                                    for installing KVM ;
                                    I'll start another list of projects that I'm going to work on and go from there

                                    https://computingforgeeks.com/how-to-install-kvm-on-fedora/

                                    Did I not have a guide here on ML?

                                    For KVM on Fedora? Don't recall one.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                      @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                      @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                      @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                      @Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                      Back to the OP.

                                      @WrCombs wants to things most likely...

                                      a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.

                                      yes.
                                      I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.

                                      Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.

                                      sounds like the likely chose..
                                      I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides?

                                      for installing KVM ;
                                      I'll start another list of projects that I'm going to work on and go from there

                                      https://computingforgeeks.com/how-to-install-kvm-on-fedora/

                                      Did I not have a guide here on ML?

                                      For KVM on Fedora? Don't recall one.

                                      Is one really required?

                                      sudo dnf install @virtualization -y

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                                      • WrCombsW
                                        WrCombs @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by WrCombs

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                        @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                        @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                        @WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                        @Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                        Back to the OP.

                                        @WrCombs wants to things most likely...

                                        a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.

                                        yes.
                                        I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.

                                        Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.

                                        sounds like the likely chose..
                                        I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides?

                                        for installing KVM ;
                                        I'll start another list of projects that I'm going to work on and go from there

                                        https://computingforgeeks.com/how-to-install-kvm-on-fedora/

                                        Did I not have a guide here on ML?

                                        For KVM on Fedora? Don't recall one.

                                        Is one really required?

                                        sudo dnf install @virtualization -y

                                        what you said is not what the guide says 😜

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          If you wanted a one-liner

                                          sudo dnf group install --with-optional virtualization -y && systemctl start libvirtd && systemctl enable libvirtd

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                                          • WrCombsW
                                            WrCombs @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Linux OS Thoughts?:

                                            If you wanted a one-liner

                                            sudo dnf group install --with-optional virtualization -y && systemctl start libvirtd && systemctl enable libvirtd

                                            sudo dnf -y install virt-manager

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