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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

      @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

      @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

      @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

      @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

      The biggest issue most businesses have is the "but I have phones already, can't we just use it"?

      So I'd imagine you'll have a battle to get that $12,200

      No - the sunk cost thing really isn't the issue this time.

      I have to spend $10K to update my old shit - or spent $14,300'ish to get all new...

      Is $14,300 realistic? What's generating the last bit over the handsets, the gateways?

      The POE switches.
      As just noted - I'd also need more UPS to cover power outage times - even if only for dedicated phones.

      If you are going PoE, the cost of the phones goes down. But this is purely a desire, not part of the decision cost.

      PoE is always more expensive. But when you account for some phones to be up during a power outage (911, jsut to take messages that we will call back, etc). That cost is already a required functoin no matter what. It is a change required by moving from digital/analog to SIP based phones.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

        There are good reasons to go both ways. We find bricks to be better more often than not.

        The lack of a need to plug another device in to a desk in an office is a large benefit actually.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

          @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

          There are good reasons to go both ways. We find bricks to be better more often than not.

          The lack of a need to plug another device in to a desk in an office is a large benefit actually.

          This one is actually pretty huge. We already have laptops and small desktop printers and label makers and other medical equipment plugged in. We have a power outlet shortage

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Dashrender
            last edited by JaredBusch

            @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

            Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.

            The answer depends on how many phones you want working.

            Normal draw is less than 5W per phone.

            Here is a switch 100% used
            e723f6f8-3de9-462f-9f0d-3ce54282f0e9-image.png

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

              @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

              Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.

              The answer depends on how many phones you want working.

              Normal draw is less than 5W per phone.

              Here is a switch 100% used
              e723f6f8-3de9-462f-9f0d-3ce54282f0e9-image.png

              .
              Lol, It was a rhetorical question

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Dashrender
                last edited by JaredBusch

                @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.

                The answer depends on how many phones you want working.

                Normal draw is less than 5W per phone.

                Here is a switch 100% used
                e723f6f8-3de9-462f-9f0d-3ce54282f0e9-image.png

                .
                Lol, It was a rhetorical question

                You mentioned getting more UPS power. SO not really. It is a math question.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                  @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                  @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                  @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                  @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                  @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                  @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                  Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

                  That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

                  Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

                  I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.

                  Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
                  94e3104e-9fc7-4739-8295-6dabd015d299-image.png

                  I really don't want power bricks - and I'm not sure that would be acceptable anyhow.

                  Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.

                  So the business could decide a smaller UPS and specific phones - or everything goes POE.

                  Or you get a softphone and install that on everyone's mobile.

                  Would work without power directly attached to the phone.

                  That's a good option.

                  To do this we would be required to give everybody a stipend to pay for their cell phones. This would also mean that everyone has to have a cell phone. This would not work for the way that much of our call routing works.

                  Only for those that want them. It's free and costs them nothing. So no stipend needed.

                  Yeah there is no stipend to pay at all. Since you have WiFi and everyone is reasonably expected to have WiFi in their lives that is free to use.

                  So there is no added cost that the employee would foot, so there is no added cost to pay out.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                    @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                    There are good reasons to go both ways. We find bricks to be better more often than not.

                    The lack of a need to plug another device in to a desk in an office is a large benefit actually.

                    This one is actually pretty huge. We already have laptops and small desktop printers and label makers and other medical equipment plugged in. We have a power outlet shortage

                    So you've never heard of power strips?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                      @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                      @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                      @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                      Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.

                      The answer depends on how many phones you want working.

                      Normal draw is less than 5W per phone.

                      Here is a switch 100% used
                      e723f6f8-3de9-462f-9f0d-3ce54282f0e9-image.png

                      .
                      Lol, It was a rhetorical question

                      You mentioned getting more UPS power. SO not really. It is a math question.

                      Yeah ok it was question for me... not that any of you could answer..

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                        @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                        @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                        @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                        @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                        @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                        @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                        Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

                        That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

                        Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

                        I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.

                        Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
                        94e3104e-9fc7-4739-8295-6dabd015d299-image.png

                        I really don't want power bricks - and I'm not sure that would be acceptable anyhow.

                        Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.

                        So the business could decide a smaller UPS and specific phones - or everything goes POE.

                        Or you get a softphone and install that on everyone's mobile.

                        Would work without power directly attached to the phone.

                        That's a good option.

                        To do this we would be required to give everybody a stipend to pay for their cell phones. This would also mean that everyone has to have a cell phone. This would not work for the way that much of our call routing works.

                        Only for those that want them. It's free and costs them nothing. So no stipend needed.

                        Yeah there is no stipend to pay at all. Since you have WiFi and everyone is reasonably expected to have WiFi in their lives that is free to use.

                        So there is no added cost that the employee would foot, so there is no added cost to pay out.

                        Our management and users don’t see it that way. Today it’s requires to provide your own works clothes, but not cell phones.... you want them to have to use one, then you provide or pay... but as scott said only those who want it... ok those few could have it, but it wouldn’t affect the number of phones we would need

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          You could also opt to purchase a few $25 poe injectors for the few phones that are required to have power all of the time and feed that from your UPS.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                            @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                            @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                            @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                            @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                            @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                            @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                            Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

                            That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

                            Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

                            I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.

                            Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
                            94e3104e-9fc7-4739-8295-6dabd015d299-image.png

                            I really don't want power bricks - and I'm not sure that would be acceptable anyhow.

                            Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.

                            So the business could decide a smaller UPS and specific phones - or everything goes POE.

                            Or you get a softphone and install that on everyone's mobile.

                            Would work without power directly attached to the phone.

                            That's a good option.

                            To do this we would be required to give everybody a stipend to pay for their cell phones. This would also mean that everyone has to have a cell phone. This would not work for the way that much of our call routing works.

                            Only for those that want them. It's free and costs them nothing. So no stipend needed.

                            Yeah there is no stipend to pay at all. Since you have WiFi and everyone is reasonably expected to have WiFi in their lives that is free to use.

                            So there is no added cost that the employee would foot, so there is no added cost to pay out.

                            That is not how that works.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                              You could also opt to purchase a few $25 poe injectors for the few phones that are required to have power all of the time and feed that from your UPS.

                              The cost difference for Poe switch vs non is 400$.... over 48 phones that’s less tha $10 ea

                              Let’s move on from POE

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

                                That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

                                Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

                                I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.

                                Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
                                94e3104e-9fc7-4739-8295-6dabd015d299-image.png

                                I really don't want power bricks - and I'm not sure that would be acceptable anyhow.

                                Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.

                                So the business could decide a smaller UPS and specific phones - or everything goes POE.

                                Or you get a softphone and install that on everyone's mobile.

                                Would work without power directly attached to the phone.

                                That's a good option.

                                To do this we would be required to give everybody a stipend to pay for their cell phones. This would also mean that everyone has to have a cell phone. This would not work for the way that much of our call routing works.

                                Only for those that want them. It's free and costs them nothing. So no stipend needed.

                                Yeah there is no stipend to pay at all. Since you have WiFi and everyone is reasonably expected to have WiFi in their lives that is free to use.

                                So there is no added cost that the employee would foot, so there is no added cost to pay out.

                                Our management and users don’t see it that way. Today it’s requires to provide your own works clothes, but not cell phones.... you want them to have to use one, then you provide or pay... but as scott said only those who want it... ok those few could have it, but it wouldn’t affect the number of phones we would need

                                A softphone on their computer is still a phone.

                                Just because you can also have a physical desk phone and a softphone on their mobile doesn't mean you're limited.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

                                  That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

                                  Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

                                  I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.

                                  Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
                                  94e3104e-9fc7-4739-8295-6dabd015d299-image.png

                                  I really don't want power bricks - and I'm not sure that would be acceptable anyhow.

                                  Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.

                                  So the business could decide a smaller UPS and specific phones - or everything goes POE.

                                  Or you get a softphone and install that on everyone's mobile.

                                  Would work without power directly attached to the phone.

                                  That's a good option.

                                  To do this we would be required to give everybody a stipend to pay for their cell phones. This would also mean that everyone has to have a cell phone. This would not work for the way that much of our call routing works.

                                  Only for those that want them. It's free and costs them nothing. So no stipend needed.

                                  Yeah there is no stipend to pay at all. Since you have WiFi and everyone is reasonably expected to have WiFi in their lives that is free to use.

                                  So there is no added cost that the employee would foot, so there is no added cost to pay out.

                                  Our management and users don’t see it that way. Today it’s requires to provide your own works clothes, but not cell phones.... you want them to have to use one, then you provide or pay... but as scott said only those who want it... ok those few could have it, but it wouldn’t affect the number of phones we would need

                                  A softphone on their computer is still a phone.

                                  Just because you can also have a physical desk phone and a softphone on their mobile doesn't mean you're limited.

                                  The whole point of using soft bones was to get rid of the expense of having a desk phone

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

                                    That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

                                    Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

                                    I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.

                                    Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
                                    94e3104e-9fc7-4739-8295-6dabd015d299-image.png

                                    I really don't want power bricks - and I'm not sure that would be acceptable anyhow.

                                    Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.

                                    So the business could decide a smaller UPS and specific phones - or everything goes POE.

                                    Or you get a softphone and install that on everyone's mobile.

                                    Would work without power directly attached to the phone.

                                    That's a good option.

                                    To do this we would be required to give everybody a stipend to pay for their cell phones. This would also mean that everyone has to have a cell phone. This would not work for the way that much of our call routing works.

                                    Only for those that want them. It's free and costs them nothing. So no stipend needed.

                                    Yeah there is no stipend to pay at all. Since you have WiFi and everyone is reasonably expected to have WiFi in their lives that is free to use.

                                    So there is no added cost that the employee would foot, so there is no added cost to pay out.

                                    Our management and users don’t see it that way. Today it’s requires to provide your own works clothes, but not cell phones.... you want them to have to use one, then you provide or pay... but as scott said only those who want it... ok those few could have it, but it wouldn’t affect the number of phones we would need

                                    A softphone on their computer is still a phone.

                                    Just because you can also have a physical desk phone and a softphone on their mobile doesn't mean you're limited.

                                    The whole point of using soft bones was to get rid of the expense of having a desk phone

                                    But you just said you needed a phone. meaning physical phones in those locations.

                                    So are you okay with maybe 100 softphones and only 20 desk phones?

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

                                      That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

                                      Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

                                      I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.

                                      Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
                                      94e3104e-9fc7-4739-8295-6dabd015d299-image.png

                                      I really don't want power bricks - and I'm not sure that would be acceptable anyhow.

                                      Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.

                                      So the business could decide a smaller UPS and specific phones - or everything goes POE.

                                      Or you get a softphone and install that on everyone's mobile.

                                      Would work without power directly attached to the phone.

                                      That's a good option.

                                      To do this we would be required to give everybody a stipend to pay for their cell phones. This would also mean that everyone has to have a cell phone. This would not work for the way that much of our call routing works.

                                      Only for those that want them. It's free and costs them nothing. So no stipend needed.

                                      Yeah there is no stipend to pay at all. Since you have WiFi and everyone is reasonably expected to have WiFi in their lives that is free to use.

                                      So there is no added cost that the employee would foot, so there is no added cost to pay out.

                                      Our management and users don’t see it that way. Today it’s requires to provide your own works clothes, but not cell phones.... you want them to have to use one, then you provide or pay... but as scott said only those who want it... ok those few could have it, but it wouldn’t affect the number of phones we would need

                                      A softphone on their computer is still a phone.

                                      Just because you can also have a physical desk phone and a softphone on their mobile doesn't mean you're limited.

                                      The whole point of using soft bones was to get rid of the expense of having a desk phone

                                      Actually I take that back. It was a way to solve the power problem.
                                      Even if that was a terrible situation, it would only be used in emergency situations I suppose that could work. But the reality is we wouldn’t ever bother doing it. We would just pull out the phones of the admin staff.

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                                        Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

                                        That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

                                        Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

                                        I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.

                                        Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
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                                        I really don't want power bricks - and I'm not sure that would be acceptable anyhow.

                                        Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.

                                        So the business could decide a smaller UPS and specific phones - or everything goes POE.

                                        Or you get a softphone and install that on everyone's mobile.

                                        Would work without power directly attached to the phone.

                                        That's a good option.

                                        To do this we would be required to give everybody a stipend to pay for their cell phones. This would also mean that everyone has to have a cell phone. This would not work for the way that much of our call routing works.

                                        Only for those that want them. It's free and costs them nothing. So no stipend needed.

                                        Yeah there is no stipend to pay at all. Since you have WiFi and everyone is reasonably expected to have WiFi in their lives that is free to use.

                                        So there is no added cost that the employee would foot, so there is no added cost to pay out.

                                        Our management and users don’t see it that way. Today it’s requires to provide your own works clothes, but not cell phones.... you want them to have to use one, then you provide or pay... but as scott said only those who want it... ok those few could have it, but it wouldn’t affect the number of phones we would need

                                        A softphone on their computer is still a phone.

                                        Just because you can also have a physical desk phone and a softphone on their mobile doesn't mean you're limited.

                                        The whole point of using soft bones was to get rid of the expense of having a desk phone

                                        But you just said you needed a phone. meaning physical phones in those locations.

                                        So are you okay with maybe 100 softphones and only 20 desk phones?

                                        No we need 122 Hard phones.
                                        We might be able to add another hundred soft phones that would hardly ever been used.
                                        The problem was solved phones is the routing problems of our calll flow situation

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                                          The problem was to be solved phones is the routing problems of our calll flow situation

                                          FTFY

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                                            The problem was to be solved phones is the routing problems of our calll flow situation

                                            FTFY

                                            well - really, it's one of HR - but they have basically said they will never fix that one.

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