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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @dbeato
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      @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      Exchange 2016 needs to mature
      https://oddytee.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/outlook-client-does-not-connect-to-mailbox-on-exchange-2016/
      This is still happening 3 years later! with the latest CU

      Seems like a fruitless thing to wish for after all of this time.

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        WrCombs
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        Getting Ready to leave for the day.

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        • dbeatoD
          dbeato @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          Exchange 2016 needs to mature
          https://oddytee.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/outlook-client-does-not-connect-to-mailbox-on-exchange-2016/
          This is still happening 3 years later! with the latest CU

          Seems like a fruitless thing to wish for after all of this time.

          Well, it should mature because if Exchange 2019 has this issue, is lame.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @dbeato
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            @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            Exchange 2016 needs to mature
            https://oddytee.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/outlook-client-does-not-connect-to-mailbox-on-exchange-2016/
            This is still happening 3 years later! with the latest CU

            Seems like a fruitless thing to wish for after all of this time.

            Well, it should mature because if Exchange 2019 has this issue, is lame.

            By the time 2019 is EoL'd it'll get fixed.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              New ML ads just went up, on the footer.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                Boy this day flew by, it was exhausting. I can't believe how late it is already.

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                  dave_c
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                  Wondering if I hate WordPress or I hate web developers with no idea. Maybe neither, maybe both, I don't know

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @dave_c
                    last edited by

                    @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    Wondering if I hate WordPress or I hate web developers with no idea. Maybe neither, maybe both, I don't know

                    More the web developers with no idea. Of course that implies both.

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                    • StrongBadS
                      StrongBad @dave_c
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                      @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      Wondering if I hate WordPress or I hate web developers with no idea. Maybe neither, maybe both, I don't know

                      Is it WP that you do not like, or plugins or themes or some other additional component?

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                        dave_c @StrongBad
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                        @StrongBad
                        Incomplete list in no special order

                        Wordpress:

                        1. If you update WordPress you risk breaking the site.
                        2. If you don't, you risk being hacked.
                        3. It is too big that the ecosystem is out of control.

                        Web developers with no idea:
                        4. They demand cPanel access. And the clients authorize that access (out of my pay grade)
                        5. The mess with DNS, really, why?
                        6. They choose poor plugins

                        About points 1 &2: Theory says WordPress is secure but plugins maybe not. So the problem is not WordPress and the solution is to choose good plugins. WordPress is so easy to use that point 3 is on spot. And then I fall on point 6 because everybody can be a WordPress developer/web master. Talk about Catch 22

                        Right now, I have a production web site down because the web developer insists on using a plugin that breaks the site. I already disabled the plugin twice.

                        Perhaps I am in the wrong industry, it is just that fell in love IT at first sight

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @dave_c
                          last edited by

                          @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @StrongBad
                          Incomplete list in no special order

                          Wordpress:

                          1. If you update WordPress you risk breaking the site.
                          2. If you don't, you risk being hacked.
                          3. It is too big that the ecosystem is out of control.

                          Web developers with no idea:
                          4. They demand cPanel access. And the clients authorize that access (out of my pay grade)
                          5. The mess with DNS, really, why?
                          6. They choose poor plugins

                          About points 1 &2: Theory says WordPress is secure but plugins maybe not. So the problem is not WordPress and the solution is to choose good plugins. WordPress is so easy to use that point 3 is on spot. And then I fall on point 6 because everybody can be a WordPress developer/web master. Talk about Catch 22

                          Right now, I have a production web site down because the web developer insists on using a plugin that breaks the site. I already disabled the plugin twice.

                          Perhaps I am in the wrong industry, it is just that fell in love IT at first sight

                          I have never broken WP with updates.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @StrongBad
                            Incomplete list in no special order

                            Wordpress:

                            1. If you update WordPress you risk breaking the site.
                            2. If you don't, you risk being hacked.
                            3. It is too big that the ecosystem is out of control.

                            Web developers with no idea:
                            4. They demand cPanel access. And the clients authorize that access (out of my pay grade)
                            5. The mess with DNS, really, why?
                            6. They choose poor plugins

                            About points 1 &2: Theory says WordPress is secure but plugins maybe not. So the problem is not WordPress and the solution is to choose good plugins. WordPress is so easy to use that point 3 is on spot. And then I fall on point 6 because everybody can be a WordPress developer/web master. Talk about Catch 22

                            Right now, I have a production web site down because the web developer insists on using a plugin that breaks the site. I already disabled the plugin twice.

                            Perhaps I am in the wrong industry, it is just that fell in love IT at first sight

                            I have never broken WP with updates.

                            Same here, they seem to be really good. Way, way better than, say, Windows. They "just work". I've been using WordPress for a really long time and support a lot of sites.

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                            • tonyshowoffT
                              tonyshowoff @dave_c
                              last edited by tonyshowoff

                              @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              Wondering if I hate WordPress or I hate web developers with no idea. Maybe neither, maybe both, I don't know

                              Web developers tend to know how to do things, web designers tend to be utterly incompetent with programming and write terrible code regardless of how pretty their sites are, they also choose to use WordPress which is worthy of any hate you throw at it. There's also dumb web developers, but most of them just work for major corporations.

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                              • tonyshowoffT
                                tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @StrongBad
                                Incomplete list in no special order

                                Wordpress:

                                1. If you update WordPress you risk breaking the site.
                                2. If you don't, you risk being hacked.
                                3. It is too big that the ecosystem is out of control.

                                Web developers with no idea:
                                4. They demand cPanel access. And the clients authorize that access (out of my pay grade)
                                5. The mess with DNS, really, why?
                                6. They choose poor plugins

                                About points 1 &2: Theory says WordPress is secure but plugins maybe not. So the problem is not WordPress and the solution is to choose good plugins. WordPress is so easy to use that point 3 is on spot. And then I fall on point 6 because everybody can be a WordPress developer/web master. Talk about Catch 22

                                Right now, I have a production web site down because the web developer insists on using a plugin that breaks the site. I already disabled the plugin twice.

                                Perhaps I am in the wrong industry, it is just that fell in love IT at first sight

                                I have never broken WP with updates.

                                Same here, they seem to be really good. Way, way better than, say, Windows. They "just work". I've been using WordPress for a really long time and support a lot of sites.

                                I hate WordPress but I've always praised both their reverse compatibility and their slow crawl toward proper design showing they at least, I think, have some understanding of how bad it is.

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                                • tonyshowoffT
                                  tonyshowoff @dave_c
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                                  @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  1. They demand cPanel access. And the clients authorize that access (out of my pay grade)

                                  This happens from time to time when some project I worked on is handed over to some new guy, they often are baffled by the concept of "I use SSH, I don't install anything on the server not needed, it's just Apache, PHP, and MySQL, and SSH" or whatever.

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                                    dave_c
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                                    @JaredBusch , @scottalanmiller
                                    I have not been that lucky lately. Specially since I am upgrading from PHP 5.6 to 7.2, some plugins just break, although in most cases it is because the plugin is old and has not been updated by the developer.
                                    Anyway, the current case is not a PHP upgrade

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
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                                      On the train home. Made the 5:46 express by less than a minute.

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                                        dave_c @tonyshowoff
                                        last edited by

                                        @tonyshowoff
                                        You are right. I meant web designers

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @dave_c
                                          last edited by

                                          @dave_c said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @JaredBusch , @scottalanmiller
                                          I have not been that lucky lately. Specially since I am upgrading from PHP 5.6 to 7.2, some plugins just break, although in most cases it is because the plugin is old and has not been updated by the developer.

                                          Plugins breaking is not at all the same as WP breaking. Is WP breaking?

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                                            dave_c @tonyshowoff
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                                            @tonyshowoff
                                            Absolutely. I am slowly "forcing" the move from cPanel to Linux without a control Panel. So far, the sites moved are working very well

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