Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure
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@stacksofplates said in Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure:
Amazon has had this for a while now with workspaces.
Yep been going for a long time now, don't know if they still are but last time I knew they were using Server 200R2 with the desktop experience enabled to make it look like a windows 7 desktop, this was due to licencing reasons.
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@stacksofplates said in Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure:
Amazon has had this for a while now with workspaces.
Ah that must be what I was thinking of.
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If anyone would like more information, you can signup for preview:
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What does E3 cost?
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@aaronstuder said in Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure:
What does E3 cost?
$20/user/month. Has pretty much never changed.
https://products.office.com/en-us/business/compare-more-office-365-for-business-plans -
This is just driving the last few nails into the coffin for Home use of Windows in it's existing form.
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@stacksofplates said in Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure:
Amazon has had this for a while now with workspaces.
They have, but Workspaces is essentially incapable of running Excel. Makes it a bit of a no go if you're tied to MS Office which a lot of people are.
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@ndc said in Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure:
@stacksofplates said in Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure:
Amazon has had this for a while now with workspaces.
They have, but Workspaces is essentially incapable of running Excel. Makes it a bit of a no go if you're tied to MS Office which a lot of people are.
Sounds like there is a lot of Sunk-Cost going on if your stuck to using Excel for your business critical functions. . .
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@dustinb3403 said in Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure:
@ndc said in Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure:
@stacksofplates said in Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure:
Amazon has had this for a while now with workspaces.
They have, but Workspaces is essentially incapable of running Excel. Makes it a bit of a no go if you're tied to MS Office which a lot of people are.
Sounds like there is a lot of Sunk-Cost going on if your stuck to using Excel for your business critical functions. . .
Business critical or not, getting people to change is hard. Frequently they will spend large amounts of money to avoid it.
MS Office is definitely a solid example of a product that induces such behavior.
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@ndc that's even more suno costs
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@mlnews Read that earlier. Sounds interesting but we will have to see.
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@stacksofplates said in Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure:
Amazon has had this for a while now with workspaces.
That's RDS, though, rather than Windows 10. Nearly the same, but not completely identical.
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@scottalanmiller could you possibly see Microsoft eventually putting the prices up on RDS Cal's targetting hosted desktop suppliers and companies running RDS/VDI on their own servers and try and push them to run on azure instead, so not making it profitable running on their own infrastructure?
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@stuartjordan said in Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure:
@scottalanmiller could you possibly see Microsoft eventually putting the prices up on RDS Cal's targetting hosted desktop suppliers and companies running RDS/VDI on their own servers and try and push them to run on azure instead, so not making it profitable running on their own infrastructure?
not likely, biting the hand that feeds them, kind of thing.
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Microsoft is smart, they don't burn their bridges. Especially now with Balmer gone, HE was NOT smart and would burn MS to the ground just to make a point. He was driven by emotion, not logic, and controller too many shares to be protected from himself.
Now, MS is operating like a smart, logical business and it shows. They aren't going to turn the market against them. As long as MS makes their money, they don't care who else is involved.
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@scottalanmiller Defiantly can understand what you are saying, I bet it has probably crossed a few MSP's minds though. I just hope they do stay loyal to the service providers.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure:
Microsoft is smart, they don't burn their bridges. Especially now with Balmer gone, HE was NOT smart and would burn MS to the ground just to make a point. He was driven by emotion, not logic, and controller too many shares to be protected from himself.
Now, MS is operating like a smart, logical business and it shows. They aren't going to turn the market against them. As long as MS makes their money, they don't care who else is involved.
Balmer was the absolute worst. He nearly destroyed Microsoft
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@irj said in Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure:
Microsoft is smart, they don't burn their bridges. Especially now with Balmer gone, HE was NOT smart and would burn MS to the ground just to make a point. He was driven by emotion, not logic, and controller too many shares to be protected from himself.
Now, MS is operating like a smart, logical business and it shows. They aren't going to turn the market against them. As long as MS makes their money, they don't care who else is involved.
Balmer was the absolute worst. He nearly destroyed Microsoft
So much of the ire against MS comes from that era. MS was a great company, even if you weren't a Windows user, in the pre-DOS till Balmer era. And now it is a great company again, with some lingering cruft from Balmer. The "IT people hate Microsoft" is not about MS, but was really (with rare exception) about Balmer. MS is going to be fighting that for decades as people are sometimes long to forget how bad it got.
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@stuartjordan said in Windows Virtual Desktop gives you a Windows 7 or 10 desktop on Azure:
@scottalanmiller could you possibly see Microsoft eventually putting the prices up on RDS Cal's targetting hosted desktop suppliers and companies running RDS/VDI on their own servers and try and push them to run on azure instead, so not making it profitable running on their own infrastructure?
IMHO, MS was close when they had RemoteApp but then moved to RDS and Citrix.
I was looking at moving two servers to RemoteApp on Azure as the price over 3 years was close. All I needed was a simple server for a many users and RemoteApp fit the bill as RDS licenses were included in the pricing. Then MS in their infinite wisdom created RDS with Citrix and the price increase 40% because of additional licensing (albeit with more tools and possibilities of which I don't need)
I haven't checked in a long while so who knows what the pricing is now.
