Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff
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@stuartjordan said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
@jaredbusch said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
@stuartjordan said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
I thought you was using Zimbra Scott? or are you only running Zimbra in a lab?
Don't conflate organizations.
oh, different organisation then?
Yes, we already have Zimbra with other companies. NTG is moving to it now, as well. NTG has remained on O365 thus far.
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Paul is still on the phone. Danielle still can't get a call back.
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@scottalanmiller out of interest - Do you have the just email plan "E1" or do you have the plan with the office applications included? If so, what will you do about Office moving forward?
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@stuartjordan said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
@scottalanmiller out of interest - Do you have the just email plan "E1" or do you have the plan with the office applications included? If so, what will you do about Office moving forward?
E3, but we've been phasing them out for a long time. We are very unhappy with the O365 tools in general, so we have been down to "just email" for 6-12 months in practical terms.
But getting old data from Sharepoint has proved to be horrific.
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@stuartjordan said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
If so, what will you do about Office moving forward?
We've never really needed that. I've not had it installed in a very long time.
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MS support can't get working tokens now. They are really struggling with this issue.
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Man, it's insane how plagued you are with O365 issues. I've never had any clients or personally experienced that in various organizations. Not to say I haven't had any issues... PowerBI has been a pain in the ass.
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@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
@stuartjordan said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
If so, what will you do about Office moving forward?
We've never really needed that. I've not had it installed in a very long time.
I am pretty sure I am the only one here who uses pretty much the full suite (not Access, why would anyone use that).
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@bbigford said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
Man, it's insane how plagued you are with O365 issues. I've never had any clients or personally experienced that in various organizations. Not to say I haven't had any issues... PowerBI has been a pain in the ass.
Some of our issues come from being so close to MS. We had MS staff do some work at some point and I think that that put us on some really unhealthy paths.
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We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.
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@wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.
To be fair. We have done 100's of migrations and have LOTS of clients using it with little to no issues.
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@minion-queen said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
@wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.
To be fair. We have done 100's of migrations and have LOTS of clients using it with little to no issues.
Not cost effective for us. We are a school but don't fall under the free to use. So the discount we get for being a 501c3 for licensing (Server, Exchange, CALs) is cheaper every 3 years than the recurring cost of licensing through O365.
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@wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
@minion-queen said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
@wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.
To be fair. We have done 100's of migrations and have LOTS of clients using it with little to no issues.
Not cost effective for us. We are a school but don't fall under the free to use. So the discount we get for being a 501c3 for licensing (Server, Exchange, CALs) is cheaper every 3 years than the recurring cost of licensing through O365.
Oh yeah that doesn't make any sense at all then.
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@minion-queen said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
@wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
@minion-queen said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
@wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.
To be fair. We have done 100's of migrations and have LOTS of clients using it with little to no issues.
Not cost effective for us. We are a school but don't fall under the free to use. So the discount we get for being a 501c3 for licensing (Server, Exchange, CALs) is cheaper every 3 years than the recurring cost of licensing through O365.
Oh yeah that doesn't make any sense at all then.
Yea, it is like $500 or something like that for a 3 year life cycle compared to $2200/year for O365. Now even if you figure in the cost of Veeam, VM Hosts, SAN, etc it still doesn't justify the switch. Especially when things like this happen.
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@wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.
Would be interesting to see if many people have moved away from 365, I haven't heard of many to be fair in the UK.
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@stuartjordan said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
@wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.
Would be interesting to see if many people have moved away from 365, I haven't heard of many to be fair in the UK.
Well we just moved away
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@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
@stuartjordan said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
@wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.
Would be interesting to see if many people have moved away from 365, I haven't heard of many to be fair in the UK.
Well we just moved away
I think Zimbra is great, would love to see many more people move to it. Shame about this interface update in limbo though.
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@wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.
on-prem exchange... no reason for it whatsoever...
I'm willing to bet it's not up to date.
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@tim_g I agree most people don't need on-prem exchange no more, but I do think that once Microsoft have looked at the numbers and most people have moved to 365 they will up the prices, they won't keep the cost per user as low as it is for long, bet you they will hike that right up sooner or later.
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@tim_g said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
@wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:
We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.
on-prem exchange... no reason for it whatsoever...
I'm willing to bet it's not up to date.
It is up to date. Also, cost effective is the reason. 3 year life cycle comparison $6600 vs $500. Who would think that hosted/O365 is the better option, EVER!?
Oh, and my shit doesn't disappear randomly every time MS decides to make some jacked up change to its system.
