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      bigbear @hobbit666
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      @hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @bigbear said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      Was thinking this morning on the way to work.
      We currently use Draytek routers for access to CCTV remotely but wondering should I "upgrade" these to EdgeRouters.

      But with the Draytek's they have ADSL/FTTC modem built in. The EdgeRouters don't as I don't know how things work in the US how do people set these up?
      Do you connect a Modem type device and "forward" the External IP to the Router? Or do you DHCP/Static of the WAN port to the range of the Modem so if there is a problem you can get onto that device and see Sync and login info etc?

      ERL has a PPPoE client. You need a dsl modem though, most people here use the PPPoE on the dsl modem and set it to bridge mode for a similar experience as a cable modem.

      That's what I would do. But it's more the troubleshooting side how do you see what the "connection" is doing without the access to the modem

      You mean remotely? Locally there is usually an IP address under a captive portal to access.

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        dafyre @coliver
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        @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        Officially homeless!

        Hopefully this was planned?

        Yep been trying to sell our house for a year and a half.

        Well, congratulations! So what next? Moving to a tent city or just camping out in random wooded areas every night?

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          coliver @dafyre
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          @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          Officially homeless!

          Hopefully this was planned?

          Yep been trying to sell our house for a year and a half.

          Well, congratulations! So what next? Moving to a tent city or just camping out in random wooded areas every night?

          Both? We're squatting at my Grandparents for a few months (they are snowbirds) until the market refreshes and some new stock comes out... or we decide what we want to do/where we want to be.

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            scottalanmiller
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            I hear that there is a lot of snow coming down in NY.

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              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              I hear that there is a lot of snow coming down in NY.

              All lake effect stuff, yeah.

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                coliver @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                I hear that there is a lot of snow coming down in NY.

                Not quite here yet. I'm sure Buffalo is getting hammered. We had a 4 hour power outage this morning. Hopefully not indicative of things to come.

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                  scottalanmiller @hobbit666
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                  @hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  But with the Draytek's they have ADSL/FTTC modem built in. The EdgeRouters don't as I don't know how things work in the US how do people set these up?

                  We almost never have ADSL in the US and almost never have modems built into routers. That's reserved for the lowest of low end consumer gear, and ever there it is rare. It happens, but extremely uncommon and basically unheard of in business. It was super rare in business even when DSL was still common.

                  In the US, for all intents and purposes, your termination is always Ethernet. Modems are provided by the ISP and everything is converted to Ethernet before you have to deal with it.

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                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    I hear that there is a lot of snow coming down in NY.

                    Doesn't seem like it, just cold and the roads are frozen over.

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                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      But with the Draytek's they have ADSL/FTTC modem built in. The EdgeRouters don't as I don't know how things work in the US how do people set these up?

                      We almost never have ADSL in the US and almost never have modems built into routers. That's reserved for the lowest of low end consumer gear, and ever there it is rare. It happens, but extremely uncommon and basically unheard of in business. It was super rare in business even when DSL was still common.

                      In the US, for all intents and purposes, your termination is always Ethernet. Modems are provided by the ISP and everything is converted to Ethernet before you have to deal with it.

                      Except for all those shitty ran SMB that buy home cheap consumer gear andlet the ISP use their "router" instead of getting real equipment. That is by far the majority of accounts in the US by volume.

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                        RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @bigbear said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @bigbear said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        It's whiskey-o-clock. Been pulling allnighters like a 22 year old in a startup.

                        Just about to grab a beer with dinner here.

                        I tried a stiff pour, drank all at once. Probably 8 oz, repeated. I don't know how you take all that vodka.

                        You just... take it. lol

                        That's what she said?

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                          coliver @JaredBusch
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                          @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          But with the Draytek's they have ADSL/FTTC modem built in. The EdgeRouters don't as I don't know how things work in the US how do people set these up?

                          We almost never have ADSL in the US and almost never have modems built into routers. That's reserved for the lowest of low end consumer gear, and ever there it is rare. It happens, but extremely uncommon and basically unheard of in business. It was super rare in business even when DSL was still common.

                          In the US, for all intents and purposes, your termination is always Ethernet. Modems are provided by the ISP and everything is converted to Ethernet before you have to deal with it.

                          Except for all those shitty ran SMB that buy home cheap consumer gear andlet the ISP use their "router" instead of getting real equipment. That is by far the majority of accounts in the US by volume.

                          And rural locations without decent access to broadband.

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                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                            @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            But with the Draytek's they have ADSL/FTTC modem built in. The EdgeRouters don't as I don't know how things work in the US how do people set these up?

                            We almost never have ADSL in the US and almost never have modems built into routers. That's reserved for the lowest of low end consumer gear, and ever there it is rare. It happens, but extremely uncommon and basically unheard of in business. It was super rare in business even when DSL was still common.

                            In the US, for all intents and purposes, your termination is always Ethernet. Modems are provided by the ISP and everything is converted to Ethernet before you have to deal with it.

                            Except for all those shitty ran SMB that buy home cheap consumer gear andlet the ISP use their "router" instead of getting real equipment. That is by far the majority of accounts in the US by volume.

                            I work with lots of tiny, crappy companies and never, ever see this. Don't even know ISPs that offer that.

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                              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              But with the Draytek's they have ADSL/FTTC modem built in. The EdgeRouters don't as I don't know how things work in the US how do people set these up?

                              We almost never have ADSL in the US and almost never have modems built into routers. That's reserved for the lowest of low end consumer gear, and ever there it is rare. It happens, but extremely uncommon and basically unheard of in business. It was super rare in business even when DSL was still common.

                              In the US, for all intents and purposes, your termination is always Ethernet. Modems are provided by the ISP and everything is converted to Ethernet before you have to deal with it.

                              Except for all those shitty ran SMB that buy home cheap consumer gear andlet the ISP use their "router" instead of getting real equipment. That is by far the majority of accounts in the US by volume.

                              I work with lots of tiny, crappy companies and never, ever see this. Don't even know ISPs that offer that.

                              Again, this shows just how far out of common reality you actually are Scott.

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                                jt1001001
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                                no snow in downtown, some of the Southern Tier's getting some. My kids were disappinted they didn't have to wear boots this morning.

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                                  NerdyDad
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                                  I worked for a cable ISP that offered both, just a modem, modems with wireless routers, modems with just voip, and then modems with router and voip all built in together. These are more for subs that are less tech savvy and not interested in managing their own networks.

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                                    coliver
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                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Edmund_Fitzgerald

                                    This day in history.

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                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                      @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      But with the Draytek's they have ADSL/FTTC modem built in. The EdgeRouters don't as I don't know how things work in the US how do people set these up?

                                      We almost never have ADSL in the US and almost never have modems built into routers. That's reserved for the lowest of low end consumer gear, and ever there it is rare. It happens, but extremely uncommon and basically unheard of in business. It was super rare in business even when DSL was still common.

                                      In the US, for all intents and purposes, your termination is always Ethernet. Modems are provided by the ISP and everything is converted to Ethernet before you have to deal with it.

                                      Except for all those shitty ran SMB that buy home cheap consumer gear andlet the ISP use their "router" instead of getting real equipment. That is by far the majority of accounts in the US by volume.

                                      I work with lots of tiny, crappy companies and never, ever see this. Don't even know ISPs that offer that.

                                      Again, this shows just how far out of common reality you actually are Scott.

                                      You always say this, but when we look, I'm normally pretty on point. Where are you finding this horde of companies using ADSL today? What ISPs are providing it? Is this some really specific, very rural market?

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                                        dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller No, this happens in NJ and NY City for SMB all the time. We have here Comcast, Spectrum, Verizon, Altiva/Optimum/Cablevision, Cogent and others.

                                        Verizon is hit and miss, most has been moved to FIOS (fiber) but they still offer Coax and AdSL to customers in areas that doesn't have fiber. So we dont get ethernet drops unless you ask multiple times or if it is DSL. with Coax you are left to their Verizon modem .

                                        Cable Vision is Coax Internet for Businesses so all goes to an Arris, Motorola or Cisco router and then you get your ethernet Drop.

                                        Spectrum and Comcast are same as well.

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                                          RojoLoco
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                                          @EddieJennings here's a great example of Curtis being Curtis:

                                          https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085297-dell-latitude-e5570-bluetooth-not-working-solved?source=superfeed

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                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            If you have great Curtis quotes and links, be sure to put them in the Better Than Aliens thread.

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