@scottalanmiller said in Cellular backup options:

@AdamF said in Cellular backup options:

@dbeato said in Cellular backup options:

@AdamF said in Cellular backup options:

@scottalanmiller Yeah, Our team, when working from home, likes to RDP into their PCs at the office. They use either traditional VPN, or Zerotier. Some of them claim to have issues with Zerotier, claiming it is "slow" for them. I never use traditional VPN anymore and I only use Zerotier if I have to RDP to anything at the office. I never experience slowness of any kind with Zerotier.

Yeah, change is "hard"

Zerotier is was such a game changer for us. Remember the old MPLS / pay a fortune days? DO NOT miss those.

I've never had to deal with that. We had better options than MPLS before MPLS hit the market. Even by 2000 we had ways to handle that stuff well without MPLS.

Yeah I only dealt with MPLS in a larger global company I worked for previously. They spend SOOO much money on AT&T managed WAN connections. Like insane amounts of money.

@dbeato said in Cellular backup options:

@AdamF said in Cellular backup options:

@scottalanmiller Yeah, Our team, when working from home, likes to RDP into their PCs at the office. They use either traditional VPN, or Zerotier. Some of them claim to have issues with Zerotier, claiming it is "slow" for them. I never use traditional VPN anymore and I only use Zerotier if I have to RDP to anything at the office. I never experience slowness of any kind with Zerotier.

Yeah, change is "hard"

Zerotier is was such a game changer for us. Remember the old MPLS / pay a fortune days? DO NOT miss those.

@scottalanmiller Yeah, Our team, when working from home, likes to RDP into their PCs at the office. They use either traditional VPN, or Zerotier. Some of them claim to have issues with Zerotier, claiming it is "slow" for them. I never use traditional VPN anymore and I only use Zerotier if I have to RDP to anything at the office. I never experience slowness of any kind with Zerotier.

@scottalanmiller said in Cellular backup options:

@AdamF said in Cellular backup options:

What is the physical connection layout for the Cradle point? I understand that the static IP block that I have from Comcast would NOT work during a failover scenario. I can deal with that. However, under normal operation (not in LTE failover), is this configured in such a way that creates double NATing? We have VoIP phones connecting to a cloud PBX, and I would not want to deal with double NAT.

I've not tested with static, but the assumption would be that the static would still work.

I just heard from my rep. Static IPs will not work during LTE backup. Once normal service is restored, the IPs are available again, but not during the LTE backup.

@travisdh1 said in Cellular backup options:

@AdamF said in Cellular backup options:

What is the physical connection layout for the Cradle point? I understand that the static IP block that I have from Comcast would NOT work during a failover scenario. I can deal with that. However, under normal operation (not in LTE failover), is this configured in such a way that creates double NATing? We have VoIP phones connecting to a cloud PBX, and I would not want to deal with double NAT.

A previous employer of mine had a very large client that used Cradle Point as a backup for each location. The Cradle Point had static IPs as well, so we could set the VPNs to use either the main or Cradle Point IP.

Did they use cradlepoint direct with their own LTE connection? Or did they use the Comcast connection pro solution?

What is the physical connection layout for the Cradle point? I understand that the static IP block that I have from Comcast would NOT work during a failover scenario. I can deal with that. However, under normal operation (not in LTE failover), is this configured in such a way that creates double NATing? We have VoIP phones connecting to a cloud PBX, and I would not want to deal with double NAT.

@scottalanmiller said in Cellular backup options:

@AdamF said in Cellular backup options:

@JasGot said in Cellular backup options:

We use the Peplink MAX BR1 Mini LTE | Industrial-Grade 4G LTE Router | MAX-BR1-MINI-LTE-US-T at about 80 customers. We like it. It's easy, it works. Verizon charges anywhere from $10 to $20 per month depending on how you get them to include it.

The hardest part of any failover system (except the integrated solution from Comcast) is the router setup. We use all Sonicwall and it works perfect for FailOVER, but every once in a while it doesn't failBACK.

I even carry one of these with us on vacation when we travel to remote places where cellular IS available but decent copper broadband ISN'T.

This plugs into you network via ethernet, or it can be a WiFi router. (or both!)

Here's a link: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MR5YKF9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That looks like a decent solution too. I like that you can go to other networks like Verizon, etc.

It's always another network. 4G providers are almost never physical ISPs.

Right, but what I meant was that I didn't know if Comcast used their own cell network. However I think Comcast uses Verizon under the hood anyway for their cell network. Can anyone confirm that?

Another alternative would be to get a second physical connection in the building. However, the only other option is a super slow DSL connection. But as just a backup, that could works as well.

@JasGot said in Cellular backup options:

We use the Peplink MAX BR1 Mini LTE | Industrial-Grade 4G LTE Router | MAX-BR1-MINI-LTE-US-T at about 80 customers. We like it. It's easy, it works. Verizon charges anywhere from $10 to $20 per month depending on how you get them to include it.

The hardest part of any failover system (except the integrated solution from Comcast) is the router setup. We use all Sonicwall and it works perfect for FailOVER, but every once in a while it doesn't failBACK.

I even carry one of these with us on vacation when we travel to remote places where cellular IS available but decent copper broadband ISN'T.

This plugs into you network via ethernet, or it can be a WiFi router. (or both!)

Here's a link: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MR5YKF9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That looks like a decent solution too. I like that you can go to other networks like Verizon, etc.

@scottalanmiller I’ll contact my rep. Is it unlimited data I assume? Any idea on cost?

What are some good options for a backup cellular connection for business internet? I have Comcast coax, and at times, it goes down for brief periods. I have an Edge Router 4 at this office and having a setup that automatically detects an outage and swaps over to a backup connection would be fantastic. There are a ton of them out there. Any recommendations here? I know Comcast also offers a backup lte solution as well.