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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by JaredBusch

      I've not installed Ruckus, but I know some people that like them. Cannot say they are hugely different form UniFi to my understanding

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      • wrx7mW
        wrx7m @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @jaredbusch I definitely like them. I am replacing old EOL Ruckus APs and controller.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @wrx7m
          last edited by

          @wrx7m said in New Toys!:

          @jaredbusch I definitely like them. I am replacing old EOL Ruckus APs and controller.

          I've never used them either. From everything I've heard, they're the same sort of deal as Ubiquiti, but not nearly as common in the continental US.

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          • Reid CooperR
            Reid Cooper
            last edited by

            Awesome, enjoy. What is the application (or is this just for some insane house project?)

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
              last edited by

              how much is a controller?

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              • wrx7mW
                wrx7m @Reid Cooper
                last edited by

                @reid-cooper said in New Toys!:

                Awesome, enjoy. What is the application (or is this just for some insane house project?)

                This is to replace our existing EOL wireless infrastructure in a 75K sq ft warehouse/office space.

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                • wrx7mW
                  wrx7m @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @dashrender said in New Toys!:

                  how much is a controller?

                  The virtual controller is about $599.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                    last edited by

                    @wrx7m said in New Toys!:

                    @dashrender said in New Toys!:

                    how much is a controller?

                    The virtual controller is about $599.

                    That's super expensive. And that is just software?

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                    • wrx7mW
                      wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by wrx7m

                      @scottalanmiller said in New Toys!:

                      @wrx7m said in New Toys!:

                      @dashrender said in New Toys!:

                      how much is a controller?

                      The virtual controller is about $599.

                      That's super expensive. And that is just software?

                      Yes, software. Comes with support and a license.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @wrx7m
                        last edited by

                        @wrx7m said in New Toys!:

                        @dashrender said in New Toys!:

                        how much is a controller?

                        The virtual controller is about $599.

                        For that price I could get 7 UAP AC Lites. Depending on your needs, that controller might be the entire cost of the project on a Ubiquiti setup.

                        Does it offer something UAPs don't?

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @wrx7m
                          last edited by

                          @wrx7m said in New Toys!:

                          @dashrender said in New Toys!:

                          how much is a controller?

                          The virtual controller is about $599.

                          What drove you away from wanting to use Ubiquiti?

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in New Toys!:

                            @wrx7m said in New Toys!:

                            @dashrender said in New Toys!:

                            how much is a controller?

                            The virtual controller is about $599.

                            That's super expensive. And that is just software?

                            Yeah, ouch. No wonder so many people stick with Ubiquiti. Even if you want their silly "Cloud Key" thing that people clamored for it's only $75 instead of the free software.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @travisdh1
                              last edited by

                              @travisdh1 said in New Toys!:

                              @scottalanmiller said in New Toys!:

                              @wrx7m said in New Toys!:

                              @dashrender said in New Toys!:

                              how much is a controller?

                              The virtual controller is about $599.

                              That's super expensive. And that is just software?

                              Yeah, ouch. No wonder so many people stick with Ubiquiti. Even if you want their silly "Cloud Key" thing that people clamored for it's only $75 instead of the free software.

                              This thing really does make sense in a ton of cases - most SMBs that are willing/able to handle their own updating of things...
                              otherwise you're paying someone like NTG at least an hour a quarter to update firmware and a rental fee on their cloud hosted controller.

                              One hour of support from a ITSP and you've more than paid for the Cloud Key.

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @dashrender said in New Toys!:

                                @travisdh1 said in New Toys!:

                                @scottalanmiller said in New Toys!:

                                @wrx7m said in New Toys!:

                                @dashrender said in New Toys!:

                                how much is a controller?

                                The virtual controller is about $599.

                                That's super expensive. And that is just software?

                                Yeah, ouch. No wonder so many people stick with Ubiquiti. Even if you want their silly "Cloud Key" thing that people clamored for it's only $75 instead of the free software.

                                This thing really does make sense in a ton of cases - most SMBs that are willing/able to handle their own updating of things...
                                otherwise you're paying someone like NTG at least an hour a quarter to update firmware and a rental fee on their cloud hosted controller.

                                One hour of support from a ITSP and you've more than paid for the Cloud Key.

                                You're assuming auto-updates on a software controlled VM aren't setup. I totally agree with you, and people are going to want them anyway.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @travisdh1
                                  last edited by

                                  @travisdh1 said in New Toys!:

                                  @dashrender said in New Toys!:

                                  @travisdh1 said in New Toys!:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in New Toys!:

                                  @wrx7m said in New Toys!:

                                  @dashrender said in New Toys!:

                                  how much is a controller?

                                  The virtual controller is about $599.

                                  That's super expensive. And that is just software?

                                  Yeah, ouch. No wonder so many people stick with Ubiquiti. Even if you want their silly "Cloud Key" thing that people clamored for it's only $75 instead of the free software.

                                  This thing really does make sense in a ton of cases - most SMBs that are willing/able to handle their own updating of things...
                                  otherwise you're paying someone like NTG at least an hour a quarter to update firmware and a rental fee on their cloud hosted controller.

                                  One hour of support from a ITSP and you've more than paid for the Cloud Key.

                                  You're assuming auto-updates on a software controlled VM aren't setup. I totally agree with you, and people are going to want them anyway.

                                  How advisable is that? I suppose for a VM like a Unifi Controller, it's not that worrisome. But I definitely don't setup my Windows servers to auto update - I don't ever want them rebooting when I'm not fully aware that it's happening.

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                                  • wrx7mW
                                    wrx7m
                                    last edited by

                                    I went with Ruckus because I have had them for over 5 years and it just works.

                                    Here comes the blasphemy - I have a Ubiquiti UAP AC Lite on an erx at home and I have had problems with several ap firmware versions and two mobile devices. I also had to return a DOA one. After a recent upgrade, it works again. In my experience, Ubiquiti has caused some headaches and I preferred to go the route where I've personally experienced fewer problems.

                                    That being said, I will almost certainly be replacing my Sophos UTM (at work) with a Ubiquiti router. I have had zero problems with my erx.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @wrx7m
                                      last edited by

                                      @wrx7m Fair enough, just asking for feedback for what your reasons were.

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                                      • wrx7mW
                                        wrx7m
                                        last edited by

                                        @DustinB3403 No worries. I was considering them to a point but I couldn't get past the issues I have had. Maybe my next deployment will be Ubiquiti and I can say that we have spent even less this life-cycle. As it stands, this life-cycle is still less than the previous one by a few thousand. Partly because of lower hardware pricing and also because of installation. Most APs will be in the same location so no new cable runs need to be performed.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @wrx7m
                                          last edited by

                                          @wrx7m said in New Toys!:

                                          I went with Ruckus because I have had them for over 5 years and it just works.

                                          Here comes the blasphemy - I have a Ubiquiti UAP AC Lite on an erx at home and I have had problems with several ap firmware versions and two mobile devices. I also had to return a DOA one. After a recent upgrade, it works again. In my experience, Ubiquiti has caused some headaches and I preferred to go the route where I've personally experienced fewer problems.

                                          That being said, I will almost certainly be replacing my Sophos UTM (at work) with a Ubiquiti router. I have had zero problems with my erx.

                                          Personal experience often plays a huge roll in our decision making process. Looks like you had reason to do what you did. 🙂

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                                          • KellyK
                                            Kelly
                                            last edited by

                                            At a previous job we rolled out Ubiquiti APs on one site since they were so inexpensive just as test to see if we could move to a controller based system. After the second AP failed of the three we purchased we went with a Ruckus system despite the increased cost. We chose to spend a bit more for apparent reliability.

                                            That said, for my current job I've chosen to do a test deployment of UBNT hardware.

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