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    Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub

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    • gjacobseG
      gjacobse
      last edited by

      Why would you want a hub over a switch?

      I may have something - albeit used and old... but I can look.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @gjacobse
        last edited by

        @gjacobse said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

        Why would you want a hub over a switch?

        I may have something - albeit used and old... but I can look.

        You're missing it.

        I need a switch to act as a basic hub. It's doing nothing but passing network to a few other devices.

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
            last edited by

            @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

            @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

            Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

              Yeah a dumb netgear for less than half the price.

              That's what I would likely do.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                Switches are not hubs. They are different things. Hubs are a tier 1 device, Switches are a tier 2.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  This post belongs in my WTF thread

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                  • brianlittlejohnB
                    brianlittlejohn @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                    @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                    @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                    Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                    There is always switching taking place on a switch. All switches operate on layer 2. Hubs have no switching and operate at layer 1, so they are two different things.

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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                      @jaredbusch said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                      This post belongs in my WTF thread

                      Where is the thumbs-up emoji when ya need it!

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        OK seems like there is some confusion here.

                        Hubs simply rebroadcast something that comes in on a port onto every other port on the hub

                        A switch typically operators at Layer 2 - it knows what devices are on each port and only sends traffic to the port that is responsible for the device in question.

                        But a switch can also have router functions built it, often called a layer 3 switch. These switches have some smarts, enough to route traffic between two or more networks.

                        I suppose if someone was only ever introduced to the layer 3 style switches, they might assume all switches work this way, and they knew Hubs didn't so...

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @DustinB3403
                          last edited by coliver

                          @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                          @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                          @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                          Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                          Wtf are you talking about?

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @coliver
                            last edited by

                            @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                            Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                            Wtf are you talking about?

                            My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

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                            • EddieJenningsE
                              EddieJennings @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                              Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                              Wtf are you talking about?

                              My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                              Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @EddieJennings
                                last edited by Dashrender

                                @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                Wtf are you talking about?

                                My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                                In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100, so if you want Gbit, you'd be hosed 😛

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                  Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                  Wtf are you talking about?

                                  My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                  Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                                  In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100, so if you want Gbit, you'd be hosted 😛

                                  Just to be a dick, what the fuck does hosted have to do with it?

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @jaredbusch said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                    Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                    Wtf are you talking about?

                                    My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                    Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                                    In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100, so if you want Gbit, you'd be hosted 😛

                                    Just to be a dick, what the fuck does hosted have to do with it?

                                    yup, I deserve that - it was supposed to be hosed...

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                      Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                      Wtf are you talking about?

                                      My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                      Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                                      In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100,...

                                      That's true, the GBit standard prohibits hubs.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        But a switch can also have router functions built it, often called a layer 3 switch. These switches have some smarts, enough to route traffic between two or more networks.

                                        THat acutally makes it a multi-port router.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                          @gjacobse said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                          Why would you want a hub over a switch?

                                          I may have something - albeit used and old... but I can look.

                                          You're missing it.

                                          I need a switch to act as a basic hub. It's doing nothing but passing network to a few other devices.

                                          I suppose you could set a switch to broadcast everything to every port. Why would you ever want this, though? What's the goal?

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                                          • EddieJenningsE
                                            EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                            @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                            @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                            @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                            @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                            @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                            @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                            Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                            Wtf are you talking about?

                                            My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                            Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                                            In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100,...

                                            That's true, the GBit standard prohibits hubs.

                                            @QuixoticJeremy Are you bored again? We need a hub that can get around Ethernet standards and pass traffic at gigabit speeds!

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