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    • QuixoticJeremyQ
      QuixoticJeremy @jt1001001
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      @jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      so here's a holy (insert explitive here). Been at my current job 15 years! That 1/3 of my life!

      Wow, you are actually kind of an oddity. Last I checked (and something that I'm working on/learning) is that often times the best way to get raises/promotions is through changing companies. You must have found a good one!

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @QuixoticJeremy
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        @quixoticjeremy said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        so here's a holy (insert explitive here). Been at my current job 15 years! That 1/3 of my life!

        Wow, you are actually kind of an oddity. Last I checked (and something that I'm working on/learning) is that often times the best way to get raises/promotions is through changing companies. You must have found a good one!

        Because it's way easier to ask for a lot of additional money when you're finding a new job. Only at a business that truly values you, will they "show you the money" or make a position for you. Allowing you to define the job etc.

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        • QuixoticJeremyQ
          QuixoticJeremy @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @quixoticjeremy said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          so here's a holy (insert explitive here). Been at my current job 15 years! That 1/3 of my life!

          Wow, you are actually kind of an oddity. Last I checked (and something that I'm working on/learning) is that often times the best way to get raises/promotions is through changing companies. You must have found a good one!

          Because it's way easier to ask for a lot of additional money when you're finding a new job. Only at a business that truly values you, will they "show you the money" or make a position for you. Allowing you to define the job etc.

          Agreed. I just find that the amount of businesses that actually value their employees properly are few and far between.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @QuixoticJeremy
            last edited by

            @quixoticjeremy said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @quixoticjeremy said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            so here's a holy (insert explitive here). Been at my current job 15 years! That 1/3 of my life!

            Wow, you are actually kind of an oddity. Last I checked (and something that I'm working on/learning) is that often times the best way to get raises/promotions is through changing companies. You must have found a good one!

            Because it's way easier to ask for a lot of additional money when you're finding a new job. Only at a business that truly values you, will they "show you the money" or make a position for you. Allowing you to define the job etc.

            Agreed. I just find that the amount of businesses that actually value their employees properly are few and far between.

            I don't know if they don't value their employees. I just don't believe that they understand how to value an employee.

            I agree, just for a different reason.

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            • QuixoticJeremyQ
              QuixoticJeremy @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @quixoticjeremy said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @quixoticjeremy said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              so here's a holy (insert explitive here). Been at my current job 15 years! That 1/3 of my life!

              Wow, you are actually kind of an oddity. Last I checked (and something that I'm working on/learning) is that often times the best way to get raises/promotions is through changing companies. You must have found a good one!

              Because it's way easier to ask for a lot of additional money when you're finding a new job. Only at a business that truly values you, will they "show you the money" or make a position for you. Allowing you to define the job etc.

              Agreed. I just find that the amount of businesses that actually value their employees properly are few and far between.

              I don't know if they don't value their employees. I just don't believe that they understand how to value an employee.

              I agree, just for a different reason.

              Wait, am I the one with a cynical/pessimistic point of view between the two of us? Really?

              You could be right though. I could see that.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by Dashrender

                Of course they value their employees, but just at the very low end typically. But it is SMB, so no one can really be specialized, so most workers are limited in their true potential because they are constantly job shifting, which is very inefficient. This drives value down. I don't think this is typically intentional on the part of the SMB, though I'm sure some would argue it is exactly their intention.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @QuixoticJeremy
                  last edited by

                  @quixoticjeremy said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @quixoticjeremy said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @quixoticjeremy said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  so here's a holy (insert explitive here). Been at my current job 15 years! That 1/3 of my life!

                  Wow, you are actually kind of an oddity. Last I checked (and something that I'm working on/learning) is that often times the best way to get raises/promotions is through changing companies. You must have found a good one!

                  Because it's way easier to ask for a lot of additional money when you're finding a new job. Only at a business that truly values you, will they "show you the money" or make a position for you. Allowing you to define the job etc.

                  Agreed. I just find that the amount of businesses that actually value their employees properly are few and far between.

                  I don't know if they don't value their employees. I just don't believe that they understand how to value an employee.

                  I agree, just for a different reason.

                  Wait, am I the one with a cynical/pessimistic point of view between the two of us? Really?

                  You could be right though. I could see that.

                  Oh trust me I am very cynical, but I've also seen it at every job I've had. Management / individual managers don't know how to value an employee. So they either abuse them, do this, work these hours, limited comp etc or they simply don't listen and drives the employee to look for better money, position etc.

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                  • EddieJenningsE
                    EddieJennings
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                    Tickets then mundane monthly tasks. My treat for completing these: VoIP planning 😄

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                    • QuixoticJeremyQ
                      QuixoticJeremy
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                      Despite being sick having a relatively good day. Perhaps it was the morning redbull that did it.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                        @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        Had a midnight dance party for a bit. And got the kids off to bed pretty painlessly. Now heading to bed myself.

                        I can honestly say I've seen your dance moves now because of the livestream 😄

                        One way or another, most people have seen my dance moves.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @jt1001001
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                          @jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          so here's a holy (insert explitive here). Been at my current job 15 years! That 1/3 of my life!

                          I've been with NTG for 18+ years!

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                          • gjacobseG
                            gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            Had a midnight dance party for a bit. And got the kids off to bed pretty painlessly. Now heading to bed myself.

                            I can honestly say I've seen your dance moves now because of the livestream 😄

                            One way or another, most people have seen my dance moves.

                            MC17 Live Stream...

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @QuixoticJeremy
                              last edited by

                              @quixoticjeremy said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @quixoticjeremy said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              so here's a holy (insert explitive here). Been at my current job 15 years! That 1/3 of my life!

                              Wow, you are actually kind of an oddity. Last I checked (and something that I'm working on/learning) is that often times the best way to get raises/promotions is through changing companies. You must have found a good one!

                              Because it's way easier to ask for a lot of additional money when you're finding a new job. Only at a business that truly values you, will they "show you the money" or make a position for you. Allowing you to define the job etc.

                              Agreed. I just find that the amount of businesses that actually value their employees properly are few and far between.

                              Although you have to consider how many companies have any means of leveraging employees, too. That's actually a huge factor. The average company can't hire good employees, only average ones. While good workers are better than bad ones, they aren't as good as average ones to an average company. You need to have good work and good management and good pay to take care of good workers. That's hard. Most large businesses are built around cost effective management of middling staff.

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                              • gjacobseG
                                gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                so here's a holy (insert explitive here). Been at my current job 15 years! That 1/3 of my life!

                                I've been with NTG for 18+ years!

                                Been with NTG for just over two now... looking for many many more...Longest stent was a few ago and that was seven... Been working with / on computers since about '87 or so... Since '89 I think I have had all of two jobs not in IT - and they were just tie overs....

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  Of course they value their employees...

                                  I've definitely, as a C level advisor, talked to companies that were extremely clear in that they did NOT value their employees and viewed them as a drain on resources but felt compelled to keep them employed.

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                                  • NerdyDadN
                                    NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    Of course they value their employees...

                                    I've definitely, as a C level advisor, talked to companies that were extremely clear in that they did NOT value their employees and viewed them as a drain on resources but felt compelled to keep them employed.

                                    Wow. That is kind of blunt. Do C-levels think that they can do better by themselves without the help of a workforce? Just think of the number of hours they would have to spend doing each individuals position just to keep the business running.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @NerdyDad
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                                      @nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      Of course they value their employees...

                                      I've definitely, as a C level advisor, talked to companies that were extremely clear in that they did NOT value their employees and viewed them as a drain on resources but felt compelled to keep them employed.

                                      Wow. That is kind of blunt. Do C-levels think that they can do better by themselves without the help of a workforce? Just think of the number of hours they would have to spend doing each individuals position just to keep the business running.

                                      Well... a lot of tasks can be automated and many could probably be done with fewer people.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @coliver
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                                        @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        Of course they value their employees...

                                        I've definitely, as a C level advisor, talked to companies that were extremely clear in that they did NOT value their employees and viewed them as a drain on resources but felt compelled to keep them employed.

                                        Wow. That is kind of blunt. Do C-levels think that they can do better by themselves without the help of a workforce? Just think of the number of hours they would have to spend doing each individuals position just to keep the business running.

                                        Well... a lot of tasks can be automated and many could probably be done with fewer people.

                                        Paying for the automation is what is difficult.

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                                        • NerdyDadN
                                          NerdyDad @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          Of course they value their employees...

                                          I've definitely, as a C level advisor, talked to companies that were extremely clear in that they did NOT value their employees and viewed them as a drain on resources but felt compelled to keep them employed.

                                          Wow. That is kind of blunt. Do C-levels think that they can do better by themselves without the help of a workforce? Just think of the number of hours they would have to spend doing each individuals position just to keep the business running.

                                          Well... a lot of tasks can be automated and many could probably be done with fewer people.

                                          Or outsourced to other specialized companies? Such as PayCom for payroll, PayPal for payment processing, etc? Just have the business focus on its core duties? How much money would a company be spending by outsourcing all of this? How much could it save? I bet you the costs would outweigh the savings.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @NerdyDad
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                                            @nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            Of course they value their employees...

                                            I've definitely, as a C level advisor, talked to companies that were extremely clear in that they did NOT value their employees and viewed them as a drain on resources but felt compelled to keep them employed.

                                            Wow. That is kind of blunt. Do C-levels think that they can do better by themselves without the help of a workforce? Just think of the number of hours they would have to spend doing each individuals position just to keep the business running.

                                            Well... a lot of tasks can be automated and many could probably be done with fewer people.

                                            Or outsourced to other specialized companies? Such as PayCom for payroll, PayPal for payment processing, etc? Just have the business focus on its core duties? How much money would a company be spending by outsourcing all of this? How much could it save? I bet you the costs would outweigh the savings.

                                            Depends. From what I've seen the costs are often minuscule to outsource this type of prescriptive stuff.

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