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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by

      Note: the thing about call transfers being blocked does not apply to anyone using a PBX. Because the PBX does the call transfers. that is for someone trying to just use two extensions direct on VoIP.ms to transfer a call.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
        last edited by JaredBusch

        The lock on international calling is that some countries are unable to be allowed in the admin portal. You have to request those be unblocked.

        Generally I can allow any country needed so far.

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        • rustcohleR
          rustcohle
          last edited by

          Curious as to why so many use Voip.ms over Flowroute. I myself discovered flowroute before Voip.ms - but I like the way the process media directly to the carrier.

          Doesn't Voip.ms route all media to its Seattle server? Are costs/performance any different on Voip.ms?

          Last I tried Twilio's trunking service it left much to be desired. I wouldn't trust my DID's to them, but maybe to save on termination.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @rustcohle
            last edited by JaredBusch

            @rustcohle said in Hidden VoIP.ms restrictions:

            Curious as to why so many use Voip.ms over Flowroute. I myself discovered flowroute before Voip.ms - but I like the way the process media directly to the carrier.

            No particular reason. I learned of VoIP.ms prior to Flowroute and simply have had no reason to switch anything. The pricing is nearly identical, and I have only heard good things about their service.

            How many POPS does Flowroute have?

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            • AdamFA
              AdamF
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              Interesting question about where the calls are routed. I know with a provider like Vitelity, if you are a wholesaler, they route calls through an SBC. At least that was true the last time I checked. I wonder how Voip.MS and FlowRoute handle it. We should do a comparison.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @AdamF
                last edited by JaredBusch

                @fuznutz04 said in Hidden VoIP.ms restrictions:

                Interesting question about where the calls are routed. I know with a provider like Vitelity, if you are a wholesaler, they route calls through an SBC. At least that was true the last time I checked. I wonder how Voip.MS and FlowRoute handle it. We should do a comparison.

                With VoIP.ms, I select the pop closest to the PBX.

                So if I turn up a Vultr based FreePBX instance in Chicago, I choose the Chicago POP with VoIP.ms and have 1-3ms ping times.

                [root@fpbx ~]# ping chicago2.voip.ms
                PING chicago2.voip.ms (208.100.39.53) 56(84) bytes of data.
                64 bytes from 208.100.39.53: icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=1.27 ms
                64 bytes from 208.100.39.53: icmp_seq=2 ttl=59 time=1.22 ms
                64 bytes from 208.100.39.53: icmp_seq=3 ttl=59 time=1.20 ms
                64 bytes from 208.100.39.53: icmp_seq=4 ttl=59 time=1.19 ms
                64 bytes from 208.100.39.53: icmp_seq=5 ttl=59 time=1.29 ms
                64 bytes from 208.100.39.53: icmp_seq=6 ttl=59 time=1.29 ms
                64 bytes from 208.100.39.53: icmp_seq=7 ttl=59 time=1.24 ms
                64 bytes from 208.100.39.53: icmp_seq=8 ttl=59 time=1.25 ms
                64 bytes from 208.100.39.53: icmp_seq=9 ttl=59 time=1.33 ms
                ^C
                --- chicago2.voip.ms ping statistics ---
                9 packets transmitted, 9 received, 0% packet loss, time 8033ms
                rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.198/1.259/1.333/0.052 ms
                

                After that I do not care how they route on the backend.

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                • AdamFA
                  AdamF @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch yeah getting to choose where your traffic is routed to initially is a huge benefit. I wonder if Lowe route allows you to do that as well.

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                  • rustcohleR
                    rustcohle @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch they actually only carry signal and route media directly to the clec they are terminating to. I think they have a Cali and Texas proxy.

                    They are different though in that they don't have an actual network. They do incredible things with correcting bad sip and rtp streams.

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                    • rustcohleR
                      rustcohle @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch I guess the point against this is whether voip.ms hide their crappy voice network behind a fast proxy.

                      With flowroute I watch my rtp stream go to the terminating carrier they are sending me to.

                      Also flowroute has a prettier website. But I'm curious to see that everyone is using voip.ms for production environments. It doesnt matter but I feel like voip.ms has a website that's going to steal my credit card and sell it to India...

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @rustcohle
                        last edited by

                        @rustcohle said in Hidden VoIP.ms restrictions:

                        With flowroute I watch my rtp stream go to the terminating carrier they are sending me to.

                        Who cares about this. You buy service. You stop caring once you hand off to them. If they cannot provide quality and you have a solid hand off, you find a different provider.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @rustcohle
                          last edited by JaredBusch

                          @rustcohle said in Hidden VoIP.ms restrictions:

                          Also flowroute has a prettier website.

                          You will find zero people arguing this point with you.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @rustcohle
                            last edited by

                            @rustcohle said in Hidden VoIP.ms restrictions:

                            But I'm curious to see that everyone is using voip.ms for production environments.

                            I do not qualify myself and one or two others as everyone.

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                            • rustcohleR
                              rustcohle @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said in Hidden VoIP.ms restrictions:

                              @rustcohle said in Hidden VoIP.ms restrictions:

                              But I'm curious to see that everyone is using voip.ms for production environments.

                              I do not qualify myself and one or two others as everyone.

                              Nor do I, I see it a lot around.

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                              • rustcohleR
                                rustcohle @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch said in Hidden VoIP.ms restrictions:

                                @rustcohle said in Hidden VoIP.ms restrictions:

                                With flowroute I watch my rtp stream go to the terminating carrier they are sending me to.

                                Who cares about this. You buy service. You stop caring once you hand off to them. If they cannot provide quality and you have a solid hand off, you find a different provider.

                                I think the transparent approach is preferable. Also they are the only pure SIP CLEC I've seen to date.

                                Not sure if voip.ms has their own interconnects to local exchanges though, seems possible with all their proxy locations.

                                I watched a VUC episode when flowroute was on years back and I agreed with a lot the guy had to say about the state of Clecs and providers like bandwidth. I had just always assumed voip.ms was more of a hobbyist provider like pbxes.com

                                Then again, maybe pbxes.com is also used a lot in production....

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