Look towards Europe, where IPv6-only internet service is not uncommon.

https://teamhelp.sipgate.co.uk/hc/en-gb/articles/207403895-sipgate-IP-Port-Ranges

https://www.dus.net/en/sip-default-settings

https://en.easybell.de/help/telephone-configuration/general/voip-expert-settings/

@Dashrender said in Relationship Pricing:

@JaredBusch said in Relationship Pricing:

But with the second one there, I only perform a lookup once every 30 days for numbers that call me.

Is this because FreePBX caches the info?

Yes, but any system can be setup that way.

@JaredBusch said in Broadvox Outage 15 April 2019:

Broadvox is now named Inteliquent as far as where the domain redirects to.

Yeah, while passing through on Onvoy page along the way of the redirects.

@FATeknollogee said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:

@scottalanmiller curious question...why are you responding to a post from Dec of 2018 made by a user who only posted that one time?

Also, because @scottalanmiller .......

@jaredbusch said in Flowroute adding more PoPs:

ip auth with random p

Right, my preferred pop is listed in the trunk. I am just uncertain how their failover POPs work. For example, if I have the NJ pop in my Trunk, but the NJ POP becomes unavailable, on the Flowroute side, failover occurs, and traffic is rerouted to another POP. However, in FreePBX, do I need to do anything to list the failover POP IPs in the firewall?

@StuartJordan Next time you decide to spin it up contact me and I will help you with the NAT issue. I have a little time this week. Next week I'm teaching FusionPBX November Admin training as show at www.fusionpbx.com. So if not this week I'll have more time after the training is over.

@fateknollogee Agreed. Always good to layout what is available, let the people make a choice as to what is right for their situation.

@eddiejennings said in [SIP Pricing: How much are 11.338 milliseconds worth?]

Twilio: New Jersey at 12.853 ms average ping
Voip.ms: Atlanta (Atlanta2) at 1.515 ms average ping

Still trying to figure out where you are getting Twilio New Jersey? It seems like you are talking about the VULTR data centers to your office, and not the VULTR data centers to the pops.

Twilio is 35% cheaper on inbound and at least 15% cheaper on outbound. Your DID numbers and toll free costs are irrelevant. You need to dump the DID's you arent using, maybe keep 5 extra. If you can dump half thats $600 per year.

On actual costs see below. You are clearly saving money now and any increase in call volume will only add to those savings. You could save on toll free with a couple other people, but for ease of administration I would keep it all at one place.

And remember, those PRI DID's cost the CLEC anything. I had a guy trying to port 800 DID's to me once and we ended up issuing 150 of our DID's, forwarding theres for 6 months and dumping them. My DIDs cost me nothing, porting those 800 would have cost me $200 per month and he would have been paying $800 per month to us.

Twilio
Inbound: 5,649 at $0.0045 / minute ($25.42)
Outbound: 6,421 at $0.007 / minute ($44.95)

$70.73

VOIP.MS
Inbound: 4,363.9 at $0.009 / minute ($39.28)
Outbound: 5,376.3 at $0.01 / minute ($53.76)

$93.08

And imagine these numbers in multiples. $700 versus $930.

Everything I hear about Voip.ms is good, but Twilio's infrastructure is many times larger. They are already cheaper. I cant really speak to Voip.ms but have been meaning to give them a try.

@scottalanmiller is right. The bottleneck is always the customer router. And not so much bandwidth as much as packets per second. Your dropbox sync is killing your phone calls 50 to 1 over bandwidth 99% of the time. Your $50 linksys router can't handle a million pps.

Most ISP's are little more than Broadsoft resellers with no interconnects in their local market. Even on the WISP side speeds are so good now that bundling voice isn't relevant.

Thanks for this post, @JaredBusch . I got the previous month's bill from TPX and am going to start going through it to see how much we can save by switching from our PRI.

We have to upgrade (replace) our Mitel/ShoreTel Shoregear T1, so that will cost a few grand.

@JaredBusch said in Hidden VoIP.ms restrictions:

@rustcohle said in Hidden VoIP.ms restrictions:

With flowroute I watch my rtp stream go to the terminating carrier they are sending me to.

Who cares about this. You buy service. You stop caring once you hand off to them. If they cannot provide quality and you have a solid hand off, you find a different provider.

I think the transparent approach is preferable. Also they are the only pure SIP CLEC I've seen to date.

Not sure if voip.ms has their own interconnects to local exchanges though, seems possible with all their proxy locations.

I watched a VUC episode when flowroute was on years back and I agreed with a lot the guy had to say about the state of Clecs and providers like bandwidth. I had just always assumed voip.ms was more of a hobbyist provider like pbxes.com

Then again, maybe pbxes.com is also used a lot in production....

@u2communications said in Setting up a SIP trunk in FreePBX 13:

If you find yourself still trying to get incoming calls working after several hours (like me), be advised that the default DID settings on voip.ms will not work. You merely have to set up a sub-account and make sure to set the authentication type as user/password authentication. Add your DID's to the sub-account and authenticate with the accountnumber_subaccount convention and use the password you created when setting up the sub-account.

I have never experienced an issue using the primary account on VoIP.ms. I highly recommend against it, always. But, I have never had a problem using it.

Also, welcome to ML.

@jaredbusch Nope... I think you're confusing this as you have an account and are logged in. @FATeknollogee pasted a page for new subscribers.

If you follow that link, then select the unlimited plan, you arrive at a new page
The new page allows one to select Local or Toll Free.
Choose Local and your state and proceed to the next page.
Choose your rate center and your page expands to show :
City Per Minute Rate Unlimited Rate
Athens $0.85/month + $0.009/minute $4.25/month + $0.00/minute View Available Numbers +

We're 4 pages in and it doesn't specify this inbound limit.