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      coliver @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said:

      @coliver Yeah I know about the in house charger (I assume an in-house charger is included minus any cost for an electrician)

      I doubt it is for some reason. Not at that price... but I don't think they mentioned one way or the other.

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        travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        I might buy one of these...

        https://www.teslamotors.com/model3

        Rant warning

        I like how Tesla is pushing the tech forward, but just don't understand the pure electric car. I could just imagine myself getting one and getting stuck in between work and home in the middle of winter. Batteries + running heater + normal terrible efficiency at cold temps = me wondering what the real range would be. Now give me something like a Tesla with a small on board generator and now we've got something very intriguing. Cargo ships and trains have adopted the electric drive with on board generation model for decades now because of the combination of range and efficiency it offers, why is nobody miniatureizing the same sort of system for road vehicles?

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          JaredBusch @travisdh1
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          @travisdh1 said:

          @DustinB3403 said:

          I might buy one of these...

          https://www.teslamotors.com/model3

          Rant warning

          I like how Tesla is pushing the tech forward, but just don't understand the pure electric car. I could just imagine myself getting one and getting stuck in between work and home in the middle of winter. Batteries + running heater + normal terrible efficiency at cold temps = me wondering what the real range would be. Now give me something like a Tesla with a small on board generator and now we've got something very intriguing. Cargo ships and trains have adopted the electric drive with on board generation model for decades now because of the combination of range and efficiency it offers, why is nobody miniatureizing the same sort of system for road vehicles?

          end rant

          Because you have to store fuel.

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            MattSpeller @travisdh1
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            @travisdh1 said:

            Now give me something like a Tesla with a small on board generator

            Chevy volt, toyota prius....

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              JaredBusch @MattSpeller
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              @MattSpeller said:

              @travisdh1 said:

              Now give me something like a Tesla with a small on board generator

              Chevy volt, toyota prius....

              I'll give you the Volt, but not the Prius. The Prius was never designed to run only on battery.

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                MattSpeller @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said:

                @MattSpeller said:

                @travisdh1 said:

                Now give me something like a Tesla with a small on board generator

                Chevy volt, toyota prius....

                I'll give you the Volt, but not the Prius. The Prius was never designed to run only on battery.

                It's a bit of an aside but one of my favourite youtube shows did it... briefly...

                Youtube Video

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                  RojoLoco @MattSpeller
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                  @MattSpeller finally! something a Prius is good for! (I am fervently anti-smugmobile, but equally pro-Tesla).

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                    travisdh1 @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said:

                    @MattSpeller said:

                    @travisdh1 said:

                    Now give me something like a Tesla with a small on board generator

                    Chevy volt, toyota prius....

                    I'll give you the Volt, but not the Prius. The Prius was never designed to run only on battery.

                    Apparently I'm FAR from the only one that has forgotten about the Volt. I don't remember how the Volt worked, but the Prius does not actually work the way I'm thinking. In a Prius the motor can directly power the front wheels. What I really want to see is pure electric drive. Even if nothing else you eliminate all the gearing in the transmission and differential, which is normally larger than the accepted 15% rule (Engineers, I tell ya.)

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                      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                      @travisdh1 said:

                      @JaredBusch said:

                      @MattSpeller said:

                      @travisdh1 said:

                      Now give me something like a Tesla with a small on board generator

                      Chevy volt, toyota prius....

                      I'll give you the Volt, but not the Prius. The Prius was never designed to run only on battery.

                      Apparently I'm FAR from the only one that has forgotten about the Volt. I don't remember how the Volt worked, but the Prius does not actually work the way I'm thinking. In a Prius the motor can directly power the front wheels. What I really want to see is pure electric drive. Even if nothing else you eliminate all the gearing in the transmission and differential, which is normally larger than the accepted 15% rule (Engineers, I tell ya.)

                      Volt is only electric assist and only once in a while. It's pretty crappy design. We looked into it when I was commuting in Texas and discovered that for us it would only be using electric to get up and down the driveway, once you hit a real road it is a gas driven car again. Not impressive at all. Calling that even a hybrid was stretching things, what a joke it was.

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                        scottalanmiller
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                        Found this today in Kaufland:

                        Snickers Hazlenut

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                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller Is that a knock-off version or the real thing, I haven't even looked at a Snickers bar in a long time.

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                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            @scottalanmiller Is that a knock-off version or the real thing, I haven't even looked at a Snickers bar in a long time.

                            That's really Snickers of course. Just an awesome one that you can't get there.

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                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              @scottalanmiller Is that a knock-off version or the real thing, I haven't even looked at a Snickers bar in a long time.

                              That's really Snickers of course. Just an awesome one that you can't get there.

                              Please bring some back to the states.. I'll gladly pay you for them.

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                                scottalanmiller
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                                I bought it but have not tried it yet as we had a big dinner. Saving it for tomorrow. Could not resist it when I saw it, though!

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                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  That's one great thing about Europe... they know to add hazlenut to absolutely everything.

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                                    BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Please bring some back to the states.. I'll gladly pay you for them.

                                    Why don't you just dip a US Snickers in Nutella? 🙂

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                                      DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Please bring some back to the states.. I'll gladly pay you for them.

                                      Why don't you just dip a US Snickers in Nutella? 🙂

                                      hahahha....

                                      because Nutella is god aweful.. I can't stand it.

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                                        stacksofplates @travisdh1
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                                        @travisdh1 said:

                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        I might buy one of these...

                                        https://www.teslamotors.com/model3

                                        Rant warning

                                        I like how Tesla is pushing the tech forward, but just don't understand the pure electric car. I could just imagine myself getting one and getting stuck in between work and home in the middle of winter. Batteries + running heater + normal terrible efficiency at cold temps = me wondering what the real range would be. Now give me something like a Tesla with a small on board generator and now we've got something very intriguing. Cargo ships and trains have adopted the electric drive with on board generation model for decades now because of the combination of range and efficiency it offers, why is nobody miniatureizing the same sort of system for road vehicles?

                                        end rant

                                        I've always wondered why that hasn't happened. A small diesel generator would run forever and provide more electricity than you need.

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                                          scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                          @johnhooks said:

                                          I've always wondered why that hasn't happened. A small diesel generator would run forever and provide more electricity than you need.

                                          You've just... reinvented the standard hybrid electric car, lol.

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                                            MattSpeller @stacksofplates
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                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            @travisdh1 said:

                                            @DustinB3403 said:

                                            I might buy one of these...

                                            https://www.teslamotors.com/model3

                                            Rant warning

                                            I like how Tesla is pushing the tech forward, but just don't understand the pure electric car. I could just imagine myself getting one and getting stuck in between work and home in the middle of winter. Batteries + running heater + normal terrible efficiency at cold temps = me wondering what the real range would be. Now give me something like a Tesla with a small on board generator and now we've got something very intriguing. Cargo ships and trains have adopted the electric drive with on board generation model for decades now because of the combination of range and efficiency it offers, why is nobody miniatureizing the same sort of system for road vehicles?

                                            end rant

                                            I've always wondered why that hasn't happened. A small diesel generator would run forever and provide more electricity than you need.

                                            If your goal is less pollution with the least cost I believe small gasoline engines with multiple cats will do better. If your goal is efficiency for unit of petroleum then yes diesel will win (in a cloud of NOX emissions).

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