@JaredBusch said in daisy chain Ubiquiti AC Pros?:

Mike,
I think this whole this is super confused right now.

Why is there copper involved? All of this should be fiber.

Are these copper and fiber runs listed already in place ? Or are they being planned?

Start this whole thing over...

The only thing they have now is internet to the Main House (1). I thought copper would be less expensive than fiber since I would only need a $20 circuit protector on it, vs a switch with a SFP if fiber is run. Also with fiber, can't terminate it myself, so that would mean hiring that out, or ordering premade cables at the right lengths.

@DustinB3403 The guy that owns the place will run all the conduit. I vacation there. I'd rather be on vacation than digging a ditch. They will probably only need me to terminate everything and configure it.

@coliver said in daisy chain Ubiquiti AC Pros?:

@Dashrender said in daisy chain Ubiquiti AC Pros?:

@Mike-Davis said in daisy chain Ubiquiti AC Pros?:

@DustinB3403 said in daisy chain Ubiquiti AC Pros?:

I would honestly just run conduit to each location and have everything connect back at the main house.

It's not that much effort, and PVC is stupidly cheap.

The more I think about it, I don't need 1" the entire run, only to the first cottage and then I can leave that cottage with 3/4" to the next one and so on. The only concern then is the distance. The labor to trench is the same no matter the size of the conduit. (at these sizes)

Is the price difference here really that bad from 1" to 3/4"?

Not a significant amount. Just run 1" the entire way. You'll have room for expansion in the future if need be.

$4.21 vs $2.71. You guys are right. On a project this size the difference would be under $100. It would cost way more to have to go back and dig for another run.

@DustinB3403 said in daisy chain Ubiquiti AC Pros?:

For the APs 10 and 11 I could see making this usable, but I wouldn't do it for the rest of the space.

haha, 10 will actually have a switch because I need the SFP to convert from fiber to copper.

@DustinB3403 said in daisy chain Ubiquiti AC Pros?:

I would honestly just run conduit to each location and have everything connect back at the main house.

It's not that much effort, and PVC is stupidly cheap.

The more I think about it, I don't need 1" the entire run, only to the first cottage and then I can leave that cottage with 3/4" to the next one and so on. The only concern then is the distance. The labor to trench is the same no matter the size of the conduit. (at these sizes)

@dafyre said in daisy chain Ubiquiti AC Pros?:

Edit: I don't see any practical way to do this without having to run some cable.

yes, I plan on running cable.

Sorry, the reason I picked the AC Pro is it has the second ethernet port that I understood was for Ethernet pass through in applications like this. It's not PoE pass though, just ethernet.

@dafyre The distances and cost. Pretty sure I'd be pushing the limit if I ran from 1 to 3 or 4 directly. Also that would mean probably going to 1" conduit so I could get 3 runs of tough wire in it. All said, that would be less expensive than erecting towers to a WISP style solution, so when you compare it to that, the cost doesn't seem so bad.

@DustinB3403 said in daisy chain Ubiquiti AC Pros?:

AP 12 is just floating out there on the lake, which would mean at least a second 3 link chain.

12 is just the legend. Sorry, should have labeled that. Used GreenShot for my napkin sketch.

@DustinB3403 said in daisy chain Ubiquiti AC Pros?:

@Mike-Davis at AP6 are you planning to have a switch there? You said there would only be 3 AP's for the longest chain, but that's 5.

Yes, switch at AP 6, so 7 and 8 would daisy chain to 9. I would probably be possible to run straight from the Main House to 7 and then go from 7 back to 6 and 5.

@DustinB3403 said in daisy chain Ubiquiti AC Pros?:

Well, there are wires to the mast or high point where the equipment would be centrally located. But due to the tree coverage he'd be limited to the "900MHz, Better tolerance for trees and small obstacles"
Which may not even be allowed in the area.

Due to the trees we would probably be talking 80' towers before taking the fresnel zone in to consideration.

Here is an image. The drawing is wildy not to scale. From the Main House to Birch is about 600', thus the multi mode fiber. From Lakeshore 1,2,3 to Lakeview is 115'.

@DustinB3403 said in daisy chain Ubiquiti AC Pros?:

@JaredBusch said in daisy chain Ubiquiti AC Pros?:

The correct solution here is likely a PtMP solution like this

https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/205197750-airMAX-Which-product-should-I-use-#3

UniFi is not designed for this purpose. Could you shoehorn it? Sure. But it is not the design.

So you're thinking have a central unit that services each of the cottages, rather than an AP per cottage.

If I understand @JaredBusch correctly, he is thinking more like a WISP solution where you put a multi point antenna on a mast and then at each cottage have a rocket mounted outside to link with the multi point and then a AC on the inside of the cottage. That was a thought too, but there are trees all over and that adds a lot of gear, which drives up the cost.

I'm looking at doing a wireless project for a group of cottages. Due to the layout, running a homerun cable to each AP isn't practical. To keep the costs down, I was thinking about doing this in each cottage:
Ubiquiti ETH-SP-G2 Surge Suppressor/Protector
PoE injector
UAP-AC-PRO
Ubiquiti ETH-SP-G2 Surge Suppressor/Protector
and on to the next cottage.

This will save on the expense of a switch in each cottage. It will also save on the expense of running home runs. Does anyone see a problem with this? The longest chain would be 3 in a row.

I have a number of clients where they need a server, but Server Essentials on a small server is enough. Veeam for backup and if the box fails, they are down for an hour or two while we restore to something else. The licensing to go to a second AD server would more than double the cost of the project. (and isn't worth it for them)

@jaredbusch said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

@scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

3. Jared's solution... point your router to your internal DNS first, then to public DNS. This handles failover and deals with any concerns of Windows DNS stack being flaky. When AD is up, internal DNS works, when it goes down, you transparently fail to public DNS.

Here is how I handle it in EdgeOS

set service dns forwarding cache-size 150
set service dns forwarding listen-on eth1
set service dns forwarding name-server 10.1.1.show 4
set service dns forwarding name-server 1.1.1.1
set service dns forwarding name-server 8.8.8.8
set service dns forwarding options server=/domain.local/10.1.1.4
set service dns forwarding options server=/domain/10.1.1.4
set system domain-name domain.local 
set system name-server 127.0.0.1

And the few absolute core items that I need to 100% resolve get a static host mapping in EdgeOS.

set system static-host-mapping host-name dc02 inet 10.1.1.4
set system static-host-mapping host-name dc02.domain.local inet 10.1.1.4
set system static-host-mapping host-name domain.local inet 10.1.1.4
set system static-host-mapping host-name pbx.domain.com inet 10.1.1.30

That's smart thinking if you have an on prem PBX. They can still use the phones even if the DC (and primary DNS) is down.

It's a nice area being so close to the Adirondacks. It doesn't matter if there a 100 good jobs there, you only need one. Start making connections and doing some gorilla marketing to find your next job. Start asking people "Is there anyone that you know that I should know?" (quote from John Maxwell)

Bring a bunch of business cards. If you collect them from people, write on the back why you might contact them again. For example if you talk to them and find out they own a MSP as well, you write that on the back, so when you get back you don't contact them thinking they were the VoIP guy you talked to. It's cool to meet colleagues in other parts of the country where you don't want to post stuff publicly, but since you're not competing, you can share numbers with them. It's nice to be able to hand them a card.

Set your out of office reply and someone else cover your phones. It sucks to have to talk time out of a conference to take a call or pound out an email. Your time there is so limited, you need to make the most of it.

Travel light and make sure you have room for swag on the way back.

I haven't ordered from them in a while, but if you have ordered since August, you will want to watch your credit card...

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/09/newegg-hit-by-credit-card-stealing-code-injected-into-shopping-code/

@karlita said in spam filter ~ What do you use?:

I don´t even check them, just delete them.

I think people here are looking for domain wide solutions that protect end users from phishing attacks and the like. You may be able to spot a phishing email, but many end users fail....

@dustinb3403 said in Discussing Basic Income from Forbes Article:

I've actually been dealing with this conversation myself lately. "I work hard, I should be able to have XYZ, it's not fair".
And while you can have XYZ, you also have to pay for it. What do you want more, money in your pocket or XYZ. . .

Forget chasing that. More money does not lead to happiness. Look at any study done on lotto winners.