Sooo, we just released a beta of Nextcloud 10. It introduces some much-asked-for features like 2-factor authentication support and some UI work and improvements to Federation while we made some progress on the enterprise features we promised. Those will all be in the final release, coming in about a month or so.
Until then, this is an awesome thing to play with! Learn more here.
@travisdh1 said in Together with Collabora, we bring #LibreOffice Online to the masses!:
Docker just does not work on CentOS, as I found out the hard way.
So I guess it's up to a sysadmin to get Collabora setup for themselves. uck.
That is screwed up. Something I hope docker and CentOS can address...
yes, those are certainly issues but there are more. Some want Apache, others NGINX. PHP 5, PHP 7. And of course - the distributions want you to split dependencies, put the config files in /etc - and all have different standards on what user the files should belong to, what settings to have in the php.ini file, where the files should be located and so on.
Even 'just package a tarball' is harder than you think - what is the apache user, do you include an apache config file, and where to extract the tarball (/srv/htdocs/nextcloud? /var/srv/www?)?
I feel you underestimate it, @travisdh1 but - feel free to prove me wrong 
@scottalanmiller said in I'm not finding the NextCloud yum repository?:
Only problem there is that by lacking it you are less likely to encounter those customers. If you had it, I would guess that you would see more of them.
Hmmm, that is possible, I suppose, and it would be sad. People might not use Nextcloud without packages. Well, how about this: my proposal.
Input and help welcome
@scottalanmiller said in I'm not finding the NextCloud yum repository?:
I thought that making money was to be purely on support, not basic functionality, especially stuff like installation. If you want customers, you have to get users first.
Well, support can be anything customers need around the base code of a product, right? Nextcloud is already far easier to install than most open source products that aren't open core and have a company behind them - libreoffice online or kolab are hard to install in no small part because the companies behind them make a business of selling access to packages. We don't want to hide releases in multiple tags on github or only support very specific setups with peculiar, patched versions of dependencies, not at all, we're not trying to go down that road.
To be very open here: we run our company like an open source community with a lot of individual freedom and sharing of information and decision making. We simply don't have anyone on board who wants to do packaging right now. We're hiring, so that might change, but unless we're forced (a customer asks) I don't see it happen soon...
Of course, we could simply do wrapper packages: only wrap the tarball. No dependencies, nothing. That would work in 95% of the cases and be easy to do and maintain. And that is something a volunteer might be willing to help with, too. If you think that that is good enough, perhaps @travisdh1 is interested in doing the script thing he mentioned. Heck, there's even base packages one can start with from ownCloud, and building can be done on the Open Build Service.
@travisdh1 said in I'm not finding the NextCloud yum repository?:
While I accept that you need to make money somehow, I'd highly, highly recommend you look for a way to do it that someone else can't make an automated script in less than a day.
Anybody is free to do so, we won't stop them and we'll happily link to their packages on our install page. Hell I'd be happy if it happened. Sadly, in reallity, it is something which costs a lot of time and effort to do it right, which is why we can't find a volunteer to do it and are willing to pay somebody to do it for customers (IF they need it, we haven't encountered one that does).
@travisdh1 Collabora Online is provided as a docker container. Run it on your server, install the Collabora integration app in Nextcloud, connect, done
See the full how-to on our site.
well for customers it is a different story. If somebody paying needs us to provide RPM's, we will. I was talking about on the community side here, fedora, openSUSE, stuff like that.
RHEL, SLE, those we provide, to customers. That's one way how we get paid
@scottalanmiller said in I'm not finding the NextCloud yum repository?:
This is definitely very big, admins look for this as a base starting point for consideration. It's not a big thing to create and it is kind of needed that the vendor is testing the deployment process for production consideration. This would go a huge way, I think, to encouraging adoption ASAP.
Yeah, I know it is important but it's been a pita in the past with people upset about the packages and it taking more than a full time job internally... So we're hoping there is a better solution by having distribution maintainers pick this up and us help, rather than us doing it ourselves and a lot of folks unhappy about the situation. But this will take time I'm afraid.
@scottalanmiller at the moment we're not doing any packaging. We work on a VM and a docker image but that's about it, in no small part because we simply focus on development.
I hope community members will pick this one up, I personally also like to hav RPM's. Of course, we are also overhauling the built in updater, so perhaps that will be good enough soon.
Afaiks not yet. The Fedora ownCloud maintainer hasn't decided if/when he moves to Nextcloud, does both, or what.
I guess the Nextcloud 10 release and after will show how far ahead we'll pull and at that point it will be easier to make a decision on these things.
Together with Collabora, we bring #LibreOffice Online to the masses. Every Nextcloud user can now enjoy their own Online Office. Get your #docker image now: here.
We also announced that we're invited by the TU Berlin to do a conference there!
Security advisories from our July 5th release are online, be sure to be up to date! See https://nextcloud.com/security/advisories/
httpoxy can affect your Nextcloud so time for an update. Security matters so take time for this!
Well, then, here's another one: our new Android app v1.1 is out with awesome new features like smart folders for instant upload, a new sidebar, select all in the upload dialog and more. Check it out and share the news!
And yes, the development is led by volunteers. We help and facilitate but essentially, we 'just' unleashed the community members who contributed to the oC app previously and, well, with the inmates running the asylum I must say development is faster and as long as we have enough testers of the beta apps, stability isn't harmed at all. Amazing what an open process does
Great article from eweek covering the #Nextcloud release with some interesting background facts.
We're delivering on promises: our update today brings enterprise features like Windows Network Drive support and Shibboleth. Free and open source! We offer an Enterprise Support Subscription with pricing online. Theming is now super easy and an iOS app is available thanks to a partnership with the Cryptocloud team. I have created a nice features page to show what's what! Last but not least the release fixes some security issues and bugs.
I published a blog about migration: http://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2016/06/migrating-to-nextcloud-9.html
@Jason said in THANKS TO YOU: Nextcloud 9 is here - and all open source, now and in the future!:
Will it ever work on windows server again?
Good question. I've heard good things about PHP 7 support in Windows so this might be doable in the future. The issue is that we do a lot of low level filesystem stuff and that was a pita in Windows - we essentially had to maintain a whole second file access layer. Perhaps this can be avoided now, in which case I sure see Windows support return. We're all over PHP 7 so, yeah...
And here a blog about migrating to Nextcloud:
http://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2016/06/migrating-to-nextcloud-9.html