As @JaredBusch said.

Why would you ever tell users to ignore such a fundamental error message? If they get that error when logging into say, Office 365, do you want them typing in their credentials to a bogus website?

@scottalanmiller said:

NTG's file server is on Office 365. Shared, hosted servers, same as I would expect a consumer to use.

Whether it works or not is another question

@Dashrender said:

Isn't Wordpress also one of the most hacked webpage type?

By that definition, is Windows the most hacked OS?

Shame they don't have multi-year discounts.

You might want to choose ports which your users will easily remember.

So you might want.

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@dafyre said:

@adam.ierymenko Would this be something that is available on self-hosted controllers or only through the ZT Web Site?

Self Hosted

@Dashrender said:

@Breffni-Potter said:

@Dashrender said:

The question remains, did the SMB care about those features?

My latest client really couldn't care less for any of the features. At the old price they might have gone for it, at the new one, not a chance.

ZT to the rescue!

I've never been so excited about a product before.

Built by engineers, not slicked well oiled salesmen.

@Dashrender said:

The question remains, did the SMB care about those features?

My latest client really couldn't care less for any of the features. At the old price they might have gone for it, at the new one, not a chance.

@scottalanmiller said:

It's always been free for a small network. No idea, I've not looked in a really long time.

It was only free for 3 devices and they axed that last year when they did a 50% price hike.

http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/576471-pertino-is-more-than-doubling-the-cost-for-a-business-plan-effective-oct-1

Yes they offered "more features" but it was painful to swallow.

@scottalanmiller said:

@dafyre said:

Another thing (while not a clean solution), you could also test using netbios names as opposed to FQDNs. I am asking the ZeroTier guys what we can do about this.

Why are they not in the community?

Which community? They are more active than Pertino online...

Not yet.

The problem with Pertino is they are enjoying the monopoly, until someone breaks that monopoly and forces them to change tactic, by then they might have already lost too many leads due to their pricing.

I have to agree.

For the price of Pertino for our clients, they can buy a fricken Sonicwall with all the crazy licenses for gateway AV and still get VPN connectivity.

Bearing in mind, they could buy the Sonicwall each year...brand new.

True, yet when Apple makes a lot of money from the "bla certified" locked down proprietary hardware route, Watching them harm their own user base is funny.

Google!

No one site can ever replace it. With it you can research different applications and uses, then you check it with peer groups (Spice or Mango) as an extra layer.

Never take the opinion of the cultural majority on any platform, a herd mentality can develop (Raid-5 is evil always for example)

The problem is, the best practice will never apply to 100% of situations, so good judgement is needed to decide if it applies or not.

@Dashrender said:

I blame those people who find themselves in this situation in the first place. They choose a closed, extremely limited ecosystem to do their business in.

You and I as technical people know this but Apple for "Creativity" is the same as going to University for "Careers" - It's become such an embedded thing.

Link please?

What you are both forgetting is that the primary target of Apple's market is no longer the studio/production house, it is exactly the home user/prosumer market that they are targeting that they will hurt the most with this.

The one man musician with his mac with a £3000 audio interface who turns out great sounding albums, the freelance photographer whose business is weddings and other events, so many solo or smaller creatives are Apple's primary user base now.

The true creative agencies and production houses do other things yes but they are not Apple's core user group anymore.

The article headline also says:
"but the real bad news is a breaking change in legacy driver support"

That expensive audio interface you bought a few years ago? May not run on El Capitan.

So for studios, video production and other areas, this could be a crippling blow to Apple's creative segment.

I didn't actually read this more than the 1st paragraph, neither will those sending a PM for help Too much word salad, didn't read.

I agree with the sentiment but those who understand this hopefully don't do it, those who don't understand it won't read this and will keep doing it.

889 words 5119 characters, less really is more when communicating a point.

One Drive for business is the lunatic uncle of the 365 family, I love 365 but if anyone is ever looking at it for file storage, for now the answer is stay away.