Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@RojoLoco said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
If you're planning on letting any religious types in, I'm out. I'll take my chances in the wild vs. being cooped up with anyone religious. Or we should eat the mennonites and amish.
The Mennonites / Amish would be the user base, the group of people we'd need the experience of to build strong structures or to maintain a farm of any sort.
If we are thinking in IT terms, users would just get us all killed. Gotta leave the users.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Also while the modern hydroponics system is being setup / growing you could supplement the food of the region with roof top gardens.
Which are well behind your fortified area.
That's slower still. You'd be living off of the hydroponics before that roof top food was available. It's getting through till the farming takes off that is the problem.
It might be, but if you're working on getting power / fortifications in place, you'd want the users to be useful. They can move dirt and make a basic roof top garden that would support the region.
Also there are about 6 million walmarts in every direction.
Not to mention the countless farms in almost every region.
Farms would be picked clean in no time and very dangerous. Walmarts would be empty on day one.
Any type of Stash, Cache, Store would be a major target. What you have something? You seem well fed,... And even clean... Target.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@dafyre said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
This is where you barter with Mennonite and Amish areas. You kill zombies in exchange for food/seeds, and training if you don't have it. They will need protection as many of them will not know or be willing to do much to protect themselves. And the Mennonites at least would be thrilled to teach.
This would be assuming that they don't get wiped out before we can get to them.
But this is more likely that they are alive and well. The region is so dispersed that there would certainly have to be a large group alive somewhere.
I would expect the more modern person (city-folk) to be gone long before the dispersed religious folk.
Why? In Night of the Living Dead, it was the farms lost first.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@RojoLoco said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
If you're planning on letting any religious types in, I'm out. I'll take my chances in the wild vs. being cooped up with anyone religious. Or we should eat the mennonites and amish.
The Mennonites / Amish would be the user base, the group of people we'd need the experience of to build strong structures or to maintain a farm of any sort.
If we are thinking in IT terms, users would just get us all killed. Gotta leave the users.
Wasteful to throw out good bait like that
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@RojoLoco said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
If you're planning on letting any religious types in, I'm out. I'll take my chances in the wild vs. being cooped up with anyone religious. Or we should eat the mennonites and amish.
The Mennonites / Amish would be the user base, the group of people we'd need the experience of to build strong structures or to maintain a farm of any sort.
If we are thinking in IT terms, users would just get us all killed. Gotta leave the users.
I would think the snowflake users would be the exception to this rule. The modern user (who has no clue) would be the ones to leave.
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@gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Also while the modern hydroponics system is being setup / growing you could supplement the food of the region with roof top gardens.
Which are well behind your fortified area.
That's slower still. You'd be living off of the hydroponics before that roof top food was available. It's getting through till the farming takes off that is the problem.
It might be, but if you're working on getting power / fortifications in place, you'd want the users to be useful. They can move dirt and make a basic roof top garden that would support the region.
Also there are about 6 million walmarts in every direction.
Not to mention the countless farms in almost every region.
Farms would be picked clean in no time and very dangerous. Walmarts would be empty on day one.
Any type of Stash, Cache, Store would be a major target. What you have something? You seem well fed,... And even clean... Target.
Maybe that is why the store is called that. In the case of zombies, Target will be a ... target.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@RojoLoco said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
If you're planning on letting any religious types in, I'm out. I'll take my chances in the wild vs. being cooped up with anyone religious. Or we should eat the mennonites and amish.
The Mennonites / Amish would be the user base, the group of people we'd need the experience of to build strong structures or to maintain a farm of any sort.
If we are thinking in IT terms, users would just get us all killed. Gotta leave the users.
I would think the snowflake users would be the exception to this rule. The modern user (who has no clue) would be the ones to leave.
Why are modern users the ones without a clue? In your scenario, it is the Amish that would know nothing of hydroponics, for example.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Also while the modern hydroponics system is being setup / growing you could supplement the food of the region with roof top gardens.
Which are well behind your fortified area.
That's slower still. You'd be living off of the hydroponics before that roof top food was available. It's getting through till the farming takes off that is the problem.
It might be, but if you're working on getting power / fortifications in place, you'd want the users to be useful. They can move dirt and make a basic roof top garden that would support the region.
Also there are about 6 million walmarts in every direction.
Not to mention the countless farms in almost every region.
Farms would be picked clean in no time and very dangerous. Walmarts would be empty on day one.
Any type of Stash, Cache, Store would be a major target. What you have something? You seem well fed,... And even clean... Target.
Maybe that is why the store is called that. In the case of zombies, Target will be a ... target.
Physical objects aren't targets though. You never see a zombie just attack car. They attack because there is a person inside of it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@RojoLoco said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
If you're planning on letting any religious types in, I'm out. I'll take my chances in the wild vs. being cooped up with anyone religious. Or we should eat the mennonites and amish.
The Mennonites / Amish would be the user base, the group of people we'd need the experience of to build strong structures or to maintain a farm of any sort.
If we are thinking in IT terms, users would just get us all killed. Gotta leave the users.
I would think the snowflake users would be the exception to this rule. The modern user (who has no clue) would be the ones to leave.
Why are modern users the ones without a clue? In your scenario, it is the Amish that would know nothing of hydroponics, for example.
The Amish are capable / knowledgeable about farming / construction in general.
The modern user (think someone use lives off of SnapChat) are rather worthless IMO.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Also while the modern hydroponics system is being setup / growing you could supplement the food of the region with roof top gardens.
Which are well behind your fortified area.
That's slower still. You'd be living off of the hydroponics before that roof top food was available. It's getting through till the farming takes off that is the problem.
It might be, but if you're working on getting power / fortifications in place, you'd want the users to be useful. They can move dirt and make a basic roof top garden that would support the region.
Also there are about 6 million walmarts in every direction.
Not to mention the countless farms in almost every region.
Farms would be picked clean in no time and very dangerous. Walmarts would be empty on day one.
Any type of Stash, Cache, Store would be a major target. What you have something? You seem well fed,... And even clean... Target.
Maybe that is why the store is called that. In the case of zombies, Target will be a ... target.
Physical objects aren't targets though. You never see a zombie just attack car. They attack because there is a person inside of it.
Yup,.. I can think of a good place to 'set up' but you will need a good big of energy to run it. Here in Kentucky there is a massive amount of underground area which could be used. Just take a look at this area in the Louisville area:
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Also while the modern hydroponics system is being setup / growing you could supplement the food of the region with roof top gardens.
Which are well behind your fortified area.
That's slower still. You'd be living off of the hydroponics before that roof top food was available. It's getting through till the farming takes off that is the problem.
It might be, but if you're working on getting power / fortifications in place, you'd want the users to be useful. They can move dirt and make a basic roof top garden that would support the region.
Also there are about 6 million walmarts in every direction.
Not to mention the countless farms in almost every region.
Farms would be picked clean in no time and very dangerous. Walmarts would be empty on day one.
Any type of Stash, Cache, Store would be a major target. What you have something? You seem well fed,... And even clean... Target.
Maybe that is why the store is called that. In the case of zombies, Target will be a ... target.
Physical objects aren't targets though. You never see a zombie just attack car. They attack because there is a person inside of it.
Target of PEOPLE, not the zombies. People are the biggest enemies.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@gjacobse said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Also while the modern hydroponics system is being setup / growing you could supplement the food of the region with roof top gardens.
Which are well behind your fortified area.
That's slower still. You'd be living off of the hydroponics before that roof top food was available. It's getting through till the farming takes off that is the problem.
It might be, but if you're working on getting power / fortifications in place, you'd want the users to be useful. They can move dirt and make a basic roof top garden that would support the region.
Also there are about 6 million walmarts in every direction.
Not to mention the countless farms in almost every region.
Farms would be picked clean in no time and very dangerous. Walmarts would be empty on day one.
Any type of Stash, Cache, Store would be a major target. What you have something? You seem well fed,... And even clean... Target.
Maybe that is why the store is called that. In the case of zombies, Target will be a ... target.
Physical objects aren't targets though. You never see a zombie just attack car. They attack because there is a person inside of it.
Target of PEOPLE, not the zombies. People are the biggest enemies.
I agree, because people, particular panic'd people cause far more harm then good.
And in a zombie ridden world, everything that isn't a zombie (and what zombies eat) would be people. therefore everyone would be a target. But still physical objects are never targets.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@RojoLoco said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
If you're planning on letting any religious types in, I'm out. I'll take my chances in the wild vs. being cooped up with anyone religious. Or we should eat the mennonites and amish.
The Mennonites / Amish would be the user base, the group of people we'd need the experience of to build strong structures or to maintain a farm of any sort.
If we are thinking in IT terms, users would just get us all killed. Gotta leave the users.
I would think the snowflake users would be the exception to this rule. The modern user (who has no clue) would be the ones to leave.
Why are modern users the ones without a clue? In your scenario, it is the Amish that would know nothing of hydroponics, for example.
The Amish are capable / knowledgeable about farming / construction in general.
The modern user (think someone use lives off of SnapChat) are rather worthless IMO.
But we already established, right, that farming and construction would be useless because you'd be dead before you could leverage that knowledge. How much use is farming when you can't defend a farm?
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@RojoLoco said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
If you're planning on letting any religious types in, I'm out. I'll take my chances in the wild vs. being cooped up with anyone religious. Or we should eat the mennonites and amish.
The Mennonites / Amish would be the user base, the group of people we'd need the experience of to build strong structures or to maintain a farm of any sort.
If we are thinking in IT terms, users would just get us all killed. Gotta leave the users.
I would think the snowflake users would be the exception to this rule. The modern user (who has no clue) would be the ones to leave.
Why are modern users the ones without a clue? In your scenario, it is the Amish that would know nothing of hydroponics, for example.
The Amish are capable / knowledgeable about farming / construction in general.
The modern user (think someone use lives off of SnapChat) are rather worthless IMO.
But we already established, right, that farming and construction would be useless because you'd be dead before you could leverage that knowledge. How much use is farming when you can't defend a farm?
But @scottalanmiller you're assuming that we'd be using a "common" sun fed farm. Rather than a cave type farm, or modern hydroponics type of farm.
Securing the structure that is your farm source in the key.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@RojoLoco said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
If you're planning on letting any religious types in, I'm out. I'll take my chances in the wild vs. being cooped up with anyone religious. Or we should eat the mennonites and amish.
The Mennonites / Amish would be the user base, the group of people we'd need the experience of to build strong structures or to maintain a farm of any sort.
If we are thinking in IT terms, users would just get us all killed. Gotta leave the users.
I would think the snowflake users would be the exception to this rule. The modern user (who has no clue) would be the ones to leave.
Why are modern users the ones without a clue? In your scenario, it is the Amish that would know nothing of hydroponics, for example.
The Amish are capable / knowledgeable about farming / construction in general.
The modern user (think someone use lives off of SnapChat) are rather worthless IMO.
But we already established, right, that farming and construction would be useless because you'd be dead before you could leverage that knowledge. How much use is farming when you can't defend a farm?
But @scottalanmiller you're assuming that we'd be using a "common" sun fed farm. Rather than a cave type farm, or modern hydroponics type of farm.
Securing the structure that is your farm source in the key.
No, I'm assuming that the Amish only know what they know and don't know the things that they explicitly don't know like what you describe. I've already explained any the Amish are only knowledgeable about traditional farms.
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@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@RojoLoco said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
If you're planning on letting any religious types in, I'm out. I'll take my chances in the wild vs. being cooped up with anyone religious. Or we should eat the mennonites and amish.
The Mennonites / Amish would be the user base, the group of people we'd need the experience of to build strong structures or to maintain a farm of any sort.
If we are thinking in IT terms, users would just get us all killed. Gotta leave the users.
I would think the snowflake users would be the exception to this rule. The modern user (who has no clue) would be the ones to leave.
Why are modern users the ones without a clue? In your scenario, it is the Amish that would know nothing of hydroponics, for example.
The Amish are capable / knowledgeable about farming / construction in general.
The modern user (think someone use lives off of SnapChat) are rather worthless IMO.
But we already established, right, that farming and construction would be useless because you'd be dead before you could leverage that knowledge. How much use is farming when you can't defend a farm?
But @scottalanmiller you're assuming that we'd be using a "common" sun fed farm. Rather than a cave type farm, or modern hydroponics type of farm.
Securing the structure that is your farm source in the key.
No, I'm assuming that the Amish only know what they know and don't know the things that they explicitly don't know like what you describe. I've already explained any the Amish are only knowledgeable about traditional farms.
A traditional farm or modern farm has the same essential requirements. Food / water / Sunlight (of some kind).
Amish for example I'm sure know more than just farming, but construction as well. So you'd just cut the entire group because they only know about traditional farms?
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@RojoLoco said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
@Minion-Queen makes a good point.
Many regions are very thinly spread out. So the chance of there being a huge zombie number in these regions would be low.
The Amish / Mennonite communities would likely even want to move in with the IT folk. A good mixture of brains and muscle - farm know-how would make for a great match.
Interesting assumption... that in the face of a zombie apocalypse that the Amish would abandon their religion and embrace the fundamental opposite. Valid, but an interesting route to go down.
They wouldn't have to abandon their religion, but which is more important? religion or life? I'm certain sacrifices would be made.
"Living with technology" no matter how old / new it is would likely be one that is made quickly.
If you're planning on letting any religious types in, I'm out. I'll take my chances in the wild vs. being cooped up with anyone religious. Or we should eat the mennonites and amish.
The Mennonites / Amish would be the user base, the group of people we'd need the experience of to build strong structures or to maintain a farm of any sort.
If we are thinking in IT terms, users would just get us all killed. Gotta leave the users.
I would think the snowflake users would be the exception to this rule. The modern user (who has no clue) would be the ones to leave.
Why are modern users the ones without a clue? In your scenario, it is the Amish that would know nothing of hydroponics, for example.
The Amish are capable / knowledgeable about farming / construction in general.
The modern user (think someone use lives off of SnapChat) are rather worthless IMO.
But we already established, right, that farming and construction would be useless because you'd be dead before you could leverage that knowledge. How much use is farming when you can't defend a farm?
But @scottalanmiller you're assuming that we'd be using a "common" sun fed farm. Rather than a cave type farm, or modern hydroponics type of farm.
Securing the structure that is your farm source in the key.
No, I'm assuming that the Amish only know what they know and don't know the things that they explicitly don't know like what you describe. I've already explained any the Amish are only knowledgeable about traditional farms.
A traditional farm or modern farm has the same essential requirements. Food / water / Sunlight (of some kind).
Amish for example I'm sure know more than just farming, but construction as well. So you'd just cut the entire group because they only know about traditional farms?
Who said cut? you are seeking out a group based specifically on their lack of knowledge and experience. That makes no sense, especially as you tied it to your other plans that involve focusing on things that the Amish cannot do. It makes no sense. You are picking the people least suited to your plans. It's a mismatch.
If your goal was to hide in fields and hope to be avoided and live far away from where civilization used to be, the Amish might be useful, except in the modern world they have a technology dependency that they get externally so they are not the "off the grid" people that you imagine, it's a bizarre dependency that would make them among the least prepared to survive without external support.
But that isn't your goal, your goal is to hunker down and survive in a tight space using modern methods. that's fine, but you need to pick people based on their being able to survive under your plan, not only people for a different plan entirely.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
Securing the structure that is your farm source in the key.
Which is why the Amish seem a bizarre choice. You can't secure the kind of farming that they have skills with. That's why your hydroponics make sense, if you can survive that long, because you can secure them. But that rules out the Amish as a logical option.
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I counter you past two arguments with this.
Do you know how to build a structure?
I'm sure I could "get" by. But in order to make it to the point of having a Hydroponics type setup, you need to be secured.
Security / minimal food are immediate needs.
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@DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:
I counter you past two arguments with this.
Do you know how to build a structure?
I'm sure I could "get" by. But in order to make it to the point of having a Hydroponics type setup, you need to be secured.
Security / minimal food are immediate needs.
No, I'm not good at building. But I'll counter with this... my family is Amish. So... since we know that building buildings is not something genetic with the Amish we can dispense with the thought that that knowledge is automatic with finding someone from that religion. If we had to survive a zombie uprising you don't focus on finding one key person with all of the necessary skills, you want a few people who have best of breed skills.
For example, you'd be struggling to find one key Amish resource who is both a farmer and a house builder. That's hard to find AND if you lose that one person you've lost everything. I'd look for @art_of_shred because we have complimentary skills. He can build houses, I know hydroponics. Together we automatically have the skills that the Amish would lack. Plus he's a planner and I'm a triage person. We'd need both skills to survive. Someone to strategize about what to do, and someone tactical to deal with the situation at hand.
