AmpLifi
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@scottalanmiller Preach it! In a home or an apartment, wire for the ap to router. If you can't use wire then use some nice POE devices. Power of Ethernet has come along way but if you live in an older home the wire may not be up to snuff.
I do like wireless ptp but for business applications and not a home to garage or a business to sign application were Joe Blow cranks up the juice and uses antennas that are 90 degree in beam width because he "ain't got no time to aim nothing."
Fixed that for you...
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@DustinB3403 No, I meant to say "EOP." Ethernet over Power is a technology which uses the already in place power wire infrastructure of a building to interconnect device on a lan. This is also known as power line communication. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-line_communication
In home products have been on the market for some time now. They have been getting faster and more secure just as everything does.
A product from Netgear http://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/powerline/PLP1200.aspx
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@DustinB3403 No, I meant to say "EOP." Ethernet over Power is a technology which uses the already in place power wire infrastructure of a building to interconnect device on a lan. This is also known as power line communication. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-line_communication
In home products have been on the market for some time now. They have been getting faster and more secure just as everything does.
A product from Netgear http://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/powerline/PLP1200.aspx
We had another thread recently where we discussed EoP stuff
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@johnyog Those are just power injectors. You'd still have to power the Ubiqiti devices with "PoE" as they don't have a separate power port (at least from what I've seen).
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For me, I'd prefer wifi to EOP. It's random based on the wiring of the building how good or bad it might be.
@DustinB3403 said in AmpLifi:
@johnyog Those are just power injectors. You'd still have to power the Ubiqiti devices with "PoE" as they don't have a separate power port (at least from what I've seen).
No...Those are Ethernet Over Power adapters. Not Power over Ethernet Injectors
"Use your existing electrical wiring to extend your Internet access to any room in your house. Just plug the Powerline 1200 into any electrical outlet then plug in your new network connection. It's that easy. With a 1200Mbps speed and Beamforming, the Powerline 1200 is perfect for connecting smart TVs, streaming players, and game consoles. Plus the extra outlet provides power for additional devices."
It uses your electrical wiring for networking with those point to point plugs.
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@DustinB3403 said in AmpLifi:
@johnyog Those are just power injectors. You'd still have to power the Ubiqiti devices with "PoE" as they don't have a separate power port (at least from what I've seen).
His point is for avoiding repeaters.
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So every power outlet in your house becomes an "ethernet cable" effectively?
Eh ok if it works.
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@JaredBusch cool. It would have been nice for UBNT to use EOP setup instead of WiFi repeater setup or mixed the two. Have the WiFi ap units use eop to connect to the router but use ubnt roaming and hand off tech for going between ap units.
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@DustinB3403 said in AmpLifi:
So every power outlet in your house becomes an "ethernet cable" effectively?
Eh ok if it works.
It does not work. I've had 2 sets and seen them deployed in other contexts. They are horribly, buggy, low performance. I've had poopy wifi boxes be more reliable.
It's not so much the hardware, it's the electrical wiring of the house, sometimes they just flat out refuse to work.
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@DustinB3403 said in AmpLifi:
So every power outlet in your house becomes an "ethernet cable" effectively?
Eh ok if it works.
Yeah, this is pretty standard. We've been using that for two decades almost for home Ethernet (I think that I bought mine in 2000) and before that we used it for intercoms and such. Works really well, better than wireless in most cases. It's very standard. So standard that some German power companies function as ISPs delivering the same thing over the outdoor power grid!
We had a thread on it recently. I think @Nic is a big user.
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@Breffni-Potter said in AmpLifi:
@DustinB3403 said in AmpLifi:
So every power outlet in your house becomes an "ethernet cable" effectively?
Eh ok if it works.
It does not work. I've had 2 sets and seen them deployed in other contexts. They are horribly, buggy, low performance. I've had poopy wifi boxes be more reliable.
It's not so much the hardware, it's the electrical wiring of the house, sometimes they just flat out refuse to work.
You have to test, a lot of people can't use wireless for similar reasons. But I've had great luck with them, even connecting buildings.
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@DustinB3403 something like this, you would need to power the ap because it would be just plugged in. It would even look like what they have now for the AmpLiFi
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@Breffni-Potter said in AmpLifi:
> It does not work. I've had 2 sets and seen them deployed in other contexts. They are horribly, buggy, low performance. I've had poopy wifi boxes be more reliable.
@scottalanmiller said in AmpLifi:
> Yeah, this is pretty standard. We've been using that for two decades almost for home Ethernet (I think that I bought mine in 2000) and before that we used it for intercoms and such. Works really well, better than wireless in most cases. It's very standard. So standard that some German power companies function as ISPs delivering the same thing over the outdoor power grid!
Which is it? lol
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@DustinB3403 said in AmpLifi:
@Breffni-Potter said in AmpLifi:
> It does not work. I've had 2 sets and seen them deployed in other contexts. They are horribly, buggy, low performance. I've had poopy wifi boxes be more reliable.
@scottalanmiller said in AmpLifi:
> Yeah, this is pretty standard. We've been using that for two decades almost for home Ethernet (I think that I bought mine in 2000) and before that we used it for intercoms and such. Works really well, better than wireless in most cases. It's very standard. So standard that some German power companies function as ISPs delivering the same thing over the outdoor power grid!
Which is it? lol
Like everything else in the IT world: YMMV, lol.
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@Breffni-Potter Yeah, that's not cool when the in home/office wiring isn't the greatest.
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@DustinB3403 The FCC stopped the power companies here in the states form using it. It made the electrical lines antennas broadcasting noise.
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Maybe at some point Ubnt AmpLiFi will add eop to it's portfolio. I did want to bring up that LiFi is a separate technology that uses the visible light spectrum for communication. Just a theory that ubnt will get into the home market for it given the name "ampLIFI?" any thoughts? you never know
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This looks pretty cool. I really like their EdgeMax line and their Unifi line of products. I updated my house to and ERX and a Unifi AC access point about 2-3 months ago and have never looked back. No more restarts of the wifi router, or any other hiccups. Plus, the Unifi units have cool style points for the blue glowing ring. My wife doesn't appreciate it as much as I do. "Must be a nerd thing" she says.
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@fuznutz04 It is a nerd thing. I have been putting in Unifi systems at my friends businesses. I would like a more extensive firewall device. The edge router platform is nice but not as nice as a sophos utm. I would like to get a hold of a AmpLifi system to give it a swing and see what kind of features it has.
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@fuznutz04 It is a nerd thing. I have been putting in Unifi systems at my friends businesses. I would like a more extensive firewall device. The edge router platform is nice but not as nice as a sophos utm. I would like to get a hold of a AmpLifi system to give it a swing and see what kind of features it has.
I haven't played with the Sophos UTMs at all, but for the price of the ERX ($100), you can't go wrong. Some places (specifically my house) wouldn't need all the extra tools available in a UTM device. They definitely have their place though in some businesses.
