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    • larsen161L
      larsen161
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      We only had a single stream and didn't care about the watermark so Wirecast free version was enough but check out Open Broadcaster Software for a FOSS alternative that has more features.

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      • StrongBadS
        StrongBad @larsen161
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        @larsen161 said:

        I used to stream live company meetings via something like a Logitech C920 HD camera hooked up to a ...

        Logitech and even Microsoft web cams are surprisingly good for "normal" video needs.

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        • larsen161L
          larsen161
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          Going with a Logitech/Microsoft webcam option you could mount a few in that room to get direct view of each side.

          Now that I'm saying this, you could even implement a CCTV system and create logins for remote viewing capabilities. The recording would be taken care of as well. Benefit would be a bit less setup each time you needed to get a live stream going but from systems I've used the recording only works in shorter file sizes so a single continuous file for the session may be an issue.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
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            Great, definitely some things here to look at.

            I really think the actually streaming function (with proper security an recording) is really the piece I am looking to recommendations on. Seems like almost any moderate quality webcam will do what I need.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @larsen161
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              @larsen161 said:

              I used to stream live company meetings via something like a Logitech C920 HD camera hooked up to a MacBook Pro and using YouTube Live. You can create a private stream with this and it's automatically recorded plus live collaboration features if people are in multiple locations.

              Is the YouTube live free?

              I can seem to find any pricing on it anywhere, and other streaming services seem to be crazy expensive.

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              • larsen161L
                larsen161 @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said:

                Is the YouTube live free?

                I can seem to find any pricing on it anywhere, and other streaming services seem to be crazy expensive.

                Yes. Works great if you're a Google Apps customer.

                If not, you can create a Google account using your corporate email without having to create a Gmail account. It may give you access to this. There are some services that require the Gmail account (Hangouts for example does not work with this type of account). signup without gmail

                Or, if you have a gmail account already and want to use your corporate email with it just add it to the alternate emails so that if someone shares or adds you using your corp email it will work automatically in google services. As a Google Apps for Work user I often share docs with non-GApps customers and they request access using their Gmail account which causes confusion sometime as to who is who. This solves this type of situation.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @larsen161
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                  @larsen161 said:

                  @BRRABill said:

                  Is the YouTube live free?

                  I can seem to find any pricing on it anywhere, and other streaming services seem to be crazy expensive.

                  Yes. Works great if you're a Google Apps customer.

                  If not, you can create a Google account using your corporate email without having to create a Gmail account. It may give you access to this. There are some services that require the Gmail account (Hangouts for example does not work with this type of account). signup without gmail

                  Or, if you have a gmail account already and want to use your corporate email with it just add it to the alternate emails so that if someone shares or adds you using your corp email it will work automatically in google services. As a Google Apps for Work user I often share docs with non-GApps customers and they request access using their Gmail account which causes confusion sometime as to who is who. This solves this type of situation.

                  This focus groups will probably be 2+ hours in length. I'm amazed they don't have any sort of storage limits or pay-for type services.

                  I think I'm going to record myself for 2 hours just to see if it works. I'll invite everyone to watch in. 🙂

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill
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                    Well, I think I am all set for my focus groups.

                    Ended up just having to record video, not stream, which makes things easier.

                    I am down to two programs, that record in different formats. Is either one better over the other?

                    .MKV
                    or
                    ..MP4

                    ???????

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                      Well, I think I am all set for my focus groups.

                      Ended up just having to record video, not stream, which makes things easier.

                      I am down to two programs, that record in different formats. Is either one better over the other?

                      .MKV
                      or
                      ..MP4

                      ???????

                      So long as you can edit the video, have enough drive space, and drives fast enough to keep up with the video feed, should be A-OK.

                      Even old fashioned hard drives perform well enough today to ingest video feeds. Back in 2006 it was a big deal for the drives to never drop under 75Mb/sec for a live video switcher I dealt with. I think even a 2.5" 5400 rpm laptop drive can handle that today!

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @travisdh1
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                        @travisdh1 said

                        So long as you can edit the video, have enough drive space, and drives fast enough to keep up with the video feed, should be A-OK.

                        Even old fashioned hard drives perform well enough today to ingest video feeds. Back in 2006 it was a big deal for the drives to never drop under 75Mb/sec for a live video switcher I dealt with. I think even a 2.5" 5400 rpm laptop drive can handle that today!

                        Are either of those formats more accepted? Or are they basically interchangeable?

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                          @BRRABill said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                          @travisdh1 said

                          So long as you can edit the video, have enough drive space, and drives fast enough to keep up with the video feed, should be A-OK.

                          Even old fashioned hard drives perform well enough today to ingest video feeds. Back in 2006 it was a big deal for the drives to never drop under 75Mb/sec for a live video switcher I dealt with. I think even a 2.5" 5400 rpm laptop drive can handle that today!

                          Are either of those formats more accepted? Or are they basically interchangeable?

                          I bet you didn't know you were opening a whole other can of worms with that question! The codec used is generally more important than the file type. Basically, check to make sure you can edit a short clip, anything more will require more information (what codec and bit rate do they use?)

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @travisdh1
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                            @travisdh1 said

                            I bet you didn't know you were opening a whole other can of worms with that question! The codec used is generally more important than the file type. Basically, check to make sure you can edit a short clip, anything more will require more information (what codec and bit rate do they use?)

                            What do you mean, edit?

                            This is just to send to a client, so there should be no editing required, but I'm always curious to learn new stuff.

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                              @BRRABill said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                              @travisdh1 said

                              I bet you didn't know you were opening a whole other can of worms with that question! The codec used is generally more important than the file type. Basically, check to make sure you can edit a short clip, anything more will require more information (what codec and bit rate do they use?)

                              What do you mean, edit?

                              This is just to send to a client, so there should be no editing required, but I'm always curious to learn new stuff.

                              Ah, I was assuming you'd at least trim the start/end before sending it out. In this case, as long as the file plays back, done. (I know what you get when you assume, guess it really is time to head home.)

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @travisdh1
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                                @travisdh1 said

                                Ah, I was assuming you'd at least trim the start/end before sending it out. In this case, as long as the file plays back, done. (I know what you get when you assume, guess it really is time to head home.)

                                Well, that is a good point, I might have to do that, because we'll probably start it a few minutes before, and then edit it out.

                                One of the programs I was looking at was this:
                                http://www.movavi.com/videoeditor/

                                Moderately cheap and looks to record and edit.

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                                  @BRRABill Check out options here All open source, so price is right. If you're just trimming the ends, Microsoft's Live Movie Maker (or whatever they call it now) should work as well.

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                                    Jason Banned @travisdh1
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                                    @travisdh1 said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                                    Even old fashioned hard drives perform well enough today to ingest video feeds.

                                    Depends on what Video feeds we are talking. there are many they will only work on SSDs because of the needed speeds.

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                                      Jason Banned @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                                      @travisdh1 said

                                      So long as you can edit the video, have enough drive space, and drives fast enough to keep up with the video feed, should be A-OK.

                                      Even old fashioned hard drives perform well enough today to ingest video feeds. Back in 2006 it was a big deal for the drives to never drop under 75Mb/sec for a live video switcher I dealt with. I think even a 2.5" 5400 rpm laptop drive can handle that today!

                                      Are either of those formats more accepted? Or are they basically interchangeable?

                                      .MKV a container. as is .mp4

                                      .MKV isn't much of a used container, it's used to be used a lot in the days of people using itunes and ipods for all music/movies. It's crap though.

                                      .mp4 is more flexible. and usually when someone is talking of .mp4 they are talking about h.264/h.265 (or another AVC GOP Codec).

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @Jason
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                                        @Jason said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                                        @BRRABill said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                                        @travisdh1 said

                                        So long as you can edit the video, have enough drive space, and drives fast enough to keep up with the video feed, should be A-OK.

                                        Even old fashioned hard drives perform well enough today to ingest video feeds. Back in 2006 it was a big deal for the drives to never drop under 75Mb/sec for a live video switcher I dealt with. I think even a 2.5" 5400 rpm laptop drive can handle that today!

                                        Are either of those formats more accepted? Or are they basically interchangeable?

                                        .MKV a container. as is .mp4

                                        .MKV isn't much of a used container, it's used to be used a lot in the days of people using itunes and ipods for all music/movies. It's crap though.

                                        .mp4 is more flexible. and usually when someone is talking of .mp4 they are talking about h.264/h.265 (or another AVC GOP Codec).

                                        .MKV was always and still is huge in the subtitle community as well as the dubious torrent world.

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                                        • brianlittlejohnB
                                          brianlittlejohn @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch mkv is a more flexible container than mp4

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill
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                                            So the net net is ... either would be fine?

                                            I had planned to use the one built into Windows, until I realized yesterday that if you minimize it, it stops the video, so it has me a little nervous I might do that by accident.

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