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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said in Video Camera Recommendation:

      Well, I think I am all set for my focus groups.

      Ended up just having to record video, not stream, which makes things easier.

      I am down to two programs, that record in different formats. Is either one better over the other?

      .MKV
      or
      ..MP4

      ???????

      So long as you can edit the video, have enough drive space, and drives fast enough to keep up with the video feed, should be A-OK.

      Even old fashioned hard drives perform well enough today to ingest video feeds. Back in 2006 it was a big deal for the drives to never drop under 75Mb/sec for a live video switcher I dealt with. I think even a 2.5" 5400 rpm laptop drive can handle that today!

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @travisdh1
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        @travisdh1 said

        So long as you can edit the video, have enough drive space, and drives fast enough to keep up with the video feed, should be A-OK.

        Even old fashioned hard drives perform well enough today to ingest video feeds. Back in 2006 it was a big deal for the drives to never drop under 75Mb/sec for a live video switcher I dealt with. I think even a 2.5" 5400 rpm laptop drive can handle that today!

        Are either of those formats more accepted? Or are they basically interchangeable?

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill said in Video Camera Recommendation:

          @travisdh1 said

          So long as you can edit the video, have enough drive space, and drives fast enough to keep up with the video feed, should be A-OK.

          Even old fashioned hard drives perform well enough today to ingest video feeds. Back in 2006 it was a big deal for the drives to never drop under 75Mb/sec for a live video switcher I dealt with. I think even a 2.5" 5400 rpm laptop drive can handle that today!

          Are either of those formats more accepted? Or are they basically interchangeable?

          I bet you didn't know you were opening a whole other can of worms with that question! The codec used is generally more important than the file type. Basically, check to make sure you can edit a short clip, anything more will require more information (what codec and bit rate do they use?)

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @travisdh1
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            @travisdh1 said

            I bet you didn't know you were opening a whole other can of worms with that question! The codec used is generally more important than the file type. Basically, check to make sure you can edit a short clip, anything more will require more information (what codec and bit rate do they use?)

            What do you mean, edit?

            This is just to send to a client, so there should be no editing required, but I'm always curious to learn new stuff.

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @BRRABill
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              @BRRABill said in Video Camera Recommendation:

              @travisdh1 said

              I bet you didn't know you were opening a whole other can of worms with that question! The codec used is generally more important than the file type. Basically, check to make sure you can edit a short clip, anything more will require more information (what codec and bit rate do they use?)

              What do you mean, edit?

              This is just to send to a client, so there should be no editing required, but I'm always curious to learn new stuff.

              Ah, I was assuming you'd at least trim the start/end before sending it out. In this case, as long as the file plays back, done. (I know what you get when you assume, guess it really is time to head home.)

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @travisdh1
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                @travisdh1 said

                Ah, I was assuming you'd at least trim the start/end before sending it out. In this case, as long as the file plays back, done. (I know what you get when you assume, guess it really is time to head home.)

                Well, that is a good point, I might have to do that, because we'll probably start it a few minutes before, and then edit it out.

                One of the programs I was looking at was this:
                http://www.movavi.com/videoeditor/

                Moderately cheap and looks to record and edit.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                  @BRRABill Check out options here All open source, so price is right. If you're just trimming the ends, Microsoft's Live Movie Maker (or whatever they call it now) should work as well.

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                    Jason Banned @travisdh1
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                    @travisdh1 said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                    Even old fashioned hard drives perform well enough today to ingest video feeds.

                    Depends on what Video feeds we are talking. there are many they will only work on SSDs because of the needed speeds.

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                      Jason Banned @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                      @travisdh1 said

                      So long as you can edit the video, have enough drive space, and drives fast enough to keep up with the video feed, should be A-OK.

                      Even old fashioned hard drives perform well enough today to ingest video feeds. Back in 2006 it was a big deal for the drives to never drop under 75Mb/sec for a live video switcher I dealt with. I think even a 2.5" 5400 rpm laptop drive can handle that today!

                      Are either of those formats more accepted? Or are they basically interchangeable?

                      .MKV a container. as is .mp4

                      .MKV isn't much of a used container, it's used to be used a lot in the days of people using itunes and ipods for all music/movies. It's crap though.

                      .mp4 is more flexible. and usually when someone is talking of .mp4 they are talking about h.264/h.265 (or another AVC GOP Codec).

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Jason
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                        @Jason said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                        @BRRABill said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                        @travisdh1 said

                        So long as you can edit the video, have enough drive space, and drives fast enough to keep up with the video feed, should be A-OK.

                        Even old fashioned hard drives perform well enough today to ingest video feeds. Back in 2006 it was a big deal for the drives to never drop under 75Mb/sec for a live video switcher I dealt with. I think even a 2.5" 5400 rpm laptop drive can handle that today!

                        Are either of those formats more accepted? Or are they basically interchangeable?

                        .MKV a container. as is .mp4

                        .MKV isn't much of a used container, it's used to be used a lot in the days of people using itunes and ipods for all music/movies. It's crap though.

                        .mp4 is more flexible. and usually when someone is talking of .mp4 they are talking about h.264/h.265 (or another AVC GOP Codec).

                        .MKV was always and still is huge in the subtitle community as well as the dubious torrent world.

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                        • brianlittlejohnB
                          brianlittlejohn @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch mkv is a more flexible container than mp4

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill
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                            So the net net is ... either would be fine?

                            I had planned to use the one built into Windows, until I realized yesterday that if you minimize it, it stops the video, so it has me a little nervous I might do that by accident.

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                            • RojoLocoR
                              RojoLoco @brianlittlejohn
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                              @brianlittlejohn said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                              @JaredBusch mkv is a more flexible container than mp4

                              True, but Jared hates it, so it must be shit. You aren't supposed to defer to your own judgement on these decisions....

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @RojoLoco
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                                @RojoLoco said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                                @brianlittlejohn said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                                @JaredBusch mkv is a more flexible container than mp4

                                True, but Jared hates it, so it must be shit. You aren't supposed to defer to your own judgement on these decisions....

                                um what? I never said i hated anything. I personally am familiar with both formats.

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                                • Deleted74295D
                                  Deleted74295 Banned @BRRABill
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                                  @BRRABill

                                  Use MP4 🙂

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @Deleted74295
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                                    @Breffni-Potter said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                                    @BRRABill

                                    Use MP4 🙂

                                    I ended up using MK4 due to the "minimizing" problem.

                                    If we are going to keep doing these videos I will have to get some more education.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill
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                                      So after the fact, I went to upload the MKV files to SharePoint, and realized this format is not supported.

                                      I downloaded handbrake, and converted to MP4, but the file size is about 1/3.

                                      The videos look and sound the same. Is this just container size? Or did I possibly do something wrong?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        You probably compressed with different settings.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Are you uploading to Sharepoint, or to Office 365 Videos?

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Video Camera Recommendation:

                                            Are you uploading to Sharepoint, or to Office 365 Videos?

                                            SharePoint.

                                            Apparently does not support streaming MKV.

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