Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play
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@scottalanmiller said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@wirestyle22 said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
Anyone see this ?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUih5C5rOrA&feature=youtu.be&t=1846
Stadia looks wild.
Google product. That means I don't have faith that they will stand behind it. Other than search and Earth, they've yet to make a product I think meets basic quality standards and/or remains long enough to be viable. Their churn and burn app testing process is great of incubating ideas, but means that anything that they release should be viewed as a tech demo, not a viable product.
In the mean time, you can try Vortex (https://vortex.gg) to get an idea of how it may work. I know there's one or two others, but I can't find my links to them now.
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@dafyre said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@scottalanmiller said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@wirestyle22 said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
Anyone see this ?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUih5C5rOrA&feature=youtu.be&t=1846
Stadia looks wild.
Google product. That means I don't have faith that they will stand behind it. Other than search and Earth, they've yet to make a product I think meets basic quality standards and/or remains long enough to be viable. Their churn and burn app testing process is great of incubating ideas, but means that anything that they release should be viewed as a tech demo, not a viable product.
In the mean time, you can try Vortex (https://vortex.gg) to get an idea of how it may work. I know there's one or two others, but I can't find my links to them now.
Liquid Sky is another, the market is pretty full of them. But I know how it may work... shitty. Even good WANs get laggy and no service can compensate for that. The concept is just idiotic IMO.
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@scottalanmiller said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@dafyre said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@scottalanmiller said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@wirestyle22 said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
Anyone see this ?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUih5C5rOrA&feature=youtu.be&t=1846
Stadia looks wild.
Google product. That means I don't have faith that they will stand behind it. Other than search and Earth, they've yet to make a product I think meets basic quality standards and/or remains long enough to be viable. Their churn and burn app testing process is great of incubating ideas, but means that anything that they release should be viewed as a tech demo, not a viable product.
In the mean time, you can try Vortex (https://vortex.gg) to get an idea of how it may work. I know there's one or two others, but I can't find my links to them now.
Liquid Sky is another, the market is pretty full of them. But I know how it may work... shitty. Even good WANs get laggy and no service can compensate for that. The concept is just idiotic IMO.
That's the other one, Liquid Sky!
I don't think the concept is idiotic. I had (at the time) a modest 30 meg cable connection and Vortext played "The Witcher" surprisingly well. I can't remember if it was Liquid Sky where I played WoW or Vortex, but also did well.
I think people do, however, need to set their expectations accordingly. You're not going to get 1080p @ 30 FPS on a DSL connection.
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@dafyre said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
That's the other one, Liquid Sky!
@wirestyle22 is friends with those guys.
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@dafyre said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
I don't think the concept is idiotic. I had (at the time) a modest 30 meg cable connection and Vortext played "The Witcher" surprisingly well. I can't remember if it was Liquid Sky where I played WoW or Vortex, but also did well.
That you can make it work doesn't make it sensible. I expect that it mostly works fine. What doesn't work is the whole concept. Sure it "can" work.. but why would we care?
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@dafyre said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
I think people do, however, need to set their expectations accordingly. You're not going to get 1080p @ 30 FPS on a DSL connection.
Right, the expectation has to be that the game will "work", but will cost too much and perform poorly. Um.... so given the proper expectations, my point is made.
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@scottalanmiller said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@dafyre said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
I think people do, however, need to set their expectations accordingly. You're not going to get 1080p @ 30 FPS on a DSL connection.
Right, the expectation has to be that the game will "work", but will cost too much and perform poorly. Um.... so given the proper expectations, my point is made.
Yeah I think point-in-time you are correct. If they can bring costs down significantly (assuming it's in the same vein as liquidsky pricing wise) it may make more sense
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@wirestyle22 I think that they will struggle for a long time to get the price low enough to work because the cost of their competition drops along with their costs. But the problems of the WAN won't go away, so as cost drops, the WAN issue actually gets worse rather than better because the value to avoiding it minimizes.
In an age when gaming over the LAN isn't good, that we are talking about going to WAN is pretty silly.
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I wonder how ray traced games are being handled in these environments.
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@scottalanmiller said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@dafyre said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
I think people do, however, need to set their expectations accordingly. You're not going to get 1080p @ 30 FPS on a DSL connection.
Right, the expectation has to be that the game will "work", but will cost too much and perform poorly. Um.... so given the proper expectations, my point is made.
Cost will be the biggest issue. I've not seen any poor performance... but of course ,my home internet is up to par.
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@dafyre said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@scottalanmiller said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@dafyre said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
I think people do, however, need to set their expectations accordingly. You're not going to get 1080p @ 30 FPS on a DSL connection.
Right, the expectation has to be that the game will "work", but will cost too much and perform poorly. Um.... so given the proper expectations, my point is made.
Cost will be the biggest issue. I've not seen any poor performance... but of course ,my home internet is up to par.
WAN links just go down or slow down from time to time. No way around that.
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@scottalanmiller said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@dafyre said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@scottalanmiller said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@dafyre said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
I think people do, however, need to set their expectations accordingly. You're not going to get 1080p @ 30 FPS on a DSL connection.
Right, the expectation has to be that the game will "work", but will cost too much and perform poorly. Um.... so given the proper expectations, my point is made.
Cost will be the biggest issue. I've not seen any poor performance... but of course ,my home internet is up to par.
WAN links just go down or slow down from time to time. No way around that.
Yep. Nothing they can do if you lose your internet... not their fault, ha ha. Vortex did a good job at adapting to changing conditions. (IE: Starting a Netflix stream on my TV, my wife downloading a game update on her laptop, and steam installing a game on my Laptop, while trying to game from a bluetooth controller on my tablet).
I personally don't think they'll be able to beat a half decent computer. I just think the concept is fine... I mean VDI faces the same challenges.
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@dafyre said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
Yep. Nothing they can do if you lose your internet... not their fault, ha ha
It IS their fault for taking something that works great already and making it rely on the WAN for no reason. That's the entire point of why the idea is stupid. Introducing problems for no reason.
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@dafyre said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
I mean VDI faces the same challenges.
No, hosted desktops over the WAN face those challenges. VDI does not. VDI doesn't imply a WAN connection.
This is an "all WAN" concept. But fundamentally.... why?
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@scottalanmiller said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@dafyre said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
I mean VDI faces the same challenges.
No, hosted desktops over the WAN face those challenges. VDI does not. VDI doesn't imply a WAN connection.
This is an "all WAN" concept. But fundamentally.... why?
so you can play 'awesome' games on your phone.
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I'm hoping that Sekiro is great but the gameplay makes me question if I will like it
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@wirestyle22 reviews are good. What I've heard is that it's all based around parrying instead of dodging or blocking like the other SoulsBourne games, so that takes some getting used to.
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@Dashrender said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@scottalanmiller said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
@dafyre said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
I mean VDI faces the same challenges.
No, hosted desktops over the WAN face those challenges. VDI does not. VDI doesn't imply a WAN connection.
This is an "all WAN" concept. But fundamentally.... why?
so you can play 'awesome' games on your phone.
You already can't do that even with streaming on LAN tech. Between wifi and phone limitations, already doesn't do that.
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And lack of good controllers.
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@wirestyle22 said in Gaming - What's everyone playing / hosting / looking to play:
Sekiro
I'm currently playing Dragon Age Inquisition (yes for the first time).
I pre-ordered Sekiro Shadows Die Twice.I'm looking forward to Cyberpunk 2013 (I mean 2077, but had to pay homage to the original R. Talsorian table top version) and Death Stranding.
