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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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      @johnhooks said:

      @brianlittlejohn said:

      @johnhooks said:

      @brianlittlejohn said:

      http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

      Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

      Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

      That is how "HA" is sold by storage vendors, VMWare with a SAN.

      Where do places draw the line between and IT professional and someone who sets something up that a vendor told them about?

      I've been wondering about this as well. There are a LOT of people claiming to be IT people that are really just "IT buyers" who can't even tell when they are buying something reasonable or not.

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates
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        So they're using a DS1815+ for 3 servers to host 40 VMs. Then they say something like this..

        "It also has some serious iscsi network performance issues and it seems Synology just isn't taking the business sector serious enough with their roadmap."

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          yeah, he has no idea what he is doing.... needs all these features today and is going to give them up someday when he goes to NetApp.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @stacksofplates
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            @johnhooks said:

            So they're using a DS1815+ for 3 servers to host 40 VMs. Then they say something like this..

            "It also has some serious iscsi network performance issues and it seems Synology just isn't taking the business sector serious enough with their roadmap."

            Wait... why would you use iSCSI... doesn't VMWare recommend NFS for shared storage?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Indeed BOTH VMware and Synology suggest NFS!!

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              • coliverC
                coliver
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                Not that I am saying that shared storage is the right solution here but if you are going to do bad things you may as well do them right.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  yeah, bad setup of a bad design.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    And another...

                    http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324720-migrate-from-hyper-v-to-vmware-and-add-san-s-to-the-mix

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      And another...

                      http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324720-migrate-from-hyper-v-to-vmware-and-add-san-s-to-the-mix

                      Holy cow. SBS and Alpha Anywhere. I've never talked to anyone other than @dafyre that has used Alpha before. I can't imagine paying for their new webserver.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @DustinB3403
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                        And another one for the pile....

                        http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1369163-high-available-nas-solution?source=homepage-feed

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          New one. This guy is not aware of the IPOD, hopefully we can fix things before they get bad.

                          http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1352900-synology-nas-single-lun-or-several-luns

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
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                            This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...

                            http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...

                              http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed

                              Ughhh... Those VNXe's suck... like really bad. I managed one at one of my old jobs and had a terrible time of it. Coincidentally that was an IPOD situation as well. Never get sales advice from your vendor.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver
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                                Why do they need a VNXe for a vSAN setup? Isn't that typically done with all of the storage directly on the host? Maybe they are using it for a backup appliance?

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
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                                  Yeah a vSAN is virtual... so he was way over sold, unless those dell servers just can't support that much drive space....

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    Which still doesn't make any sense, local storage > anything else (in 99% of cases)

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said:

                                      Yeah a vSAN is virtual... so he was way over sold, unless those dell servers just can't support that much drive space....

                                      Right... but then you would move up to the next chassis that has a ton of drive bays available. It would still be less expensive then the VNXe.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        The servers are diskless.... yeah IPOD.

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver
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                                          And moving from XenServer to VMWare.... sounds like they needed to spend their budget before the end of the year last year.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said:

                                            The servers are diskless.... yeah IPOD.

                                            They are going to be sorry when that VNXe forgets it has two controllers and crashes spectacularly (experience).

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