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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates
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      So they're using a DS1815+ for 3 servers to host 40 VMs. Then they say something like this..

      "It also has some serious iscsi network performance issues and it seems Synology just isn't taking the business sector serious enough with their roadmap."

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        yeah, he has no idea what he is doing.... needs all these features today and is going to give them up someday when he goes to NetApp.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @stacksofplates
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          @johnhooks said:

          So they're using a DS1815+ for 3 servers to host 40 VMs. Then they say something like this..

          "It also has some serious iscsi network performance issues and it seems Synology just isn't taking the business sector serious enough with their roadmap."

          Wait... why would you use iSCSI... doesn't VMWare recommend NFS for shared storage?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Indeed BOTH VMware and Synology suggest NFS!!

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            • coliverC
              coliver
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              Not that I am saying that shared storage is the right solution here but if you are going to do bad things you may as well do them right.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                yeah, bad setup of a bad design.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  And another...

                  http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324720-migrate-from-hyper-v-to-vmware-and-add-san-s-to-the-mix

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    And another...

                    http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324720-migrate-from-hyper-v-to-vmware-and-add-san-s-to-the-mix

                    Holy cow. SBS and Alpha Anywhere. I've never talked to anyone other than @dafyre that has used Alpha before. I can't imagine paying for their new webserver.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @DustinB3403
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                      And another one for the pile....

                      http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1369163-high-available-nas-solution?source=homepage-feed

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        New one. This guy is not aware of the IPOD, hopefully we can fix things before they get bad.

                        http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1352900-synology-nas-single-lun-or-several-luns

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
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                          This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...

                          http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...

                            http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed

                            Ughhh... Those VNXe's suck... like really bad. I managed one at one of my old jobs and had a terrible time of it. Coincidentally that was an IPOD situation as well. Never get sales advice from your vendor.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver
                              last edited by coliver

                              Why do they need a VNXe for a vSAN setup? Isn't that typically done with all of the storage directly on the host? Maybe they are using it for a backup appliance?

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
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                                Yeah a vSAN is virtual... so he was way over sold, unless those dell servers just can't support that much drive space....

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
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                                  Which still doesn't make any sense, local storage > anything else (in 99% of cases)

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said:

                                    Yeah a vSAN is virtual... so he was way over sold, unless those dell servers just can't support that much drive space....

                                    Right... but then you would move up to the next chassis that has a ton of drive bays available. It would still be less expensive then the VNXe.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
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                                      The servers are diskless.... yeah IPOD.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        And moving from XenServer to VMWare.... sounds like they needed to spend their budget before the end of the year last year.

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said:

                                          The servers are diskless.... yeah IPOD.

                                          They are going to be sorry when that VNXe forgets it has two controllers and crashes spectacularly (experience).

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            He thought that he had vSAN, then realized it was an IPOD. Oops. Everything bad here. Textbook bad design, dollars to donuts he used a salesperson to do his job and got burned, moving from the best (Xen) to the worst (VMware), on and on.

                                            And maybe the saddest thing is that he posts this all proud like we aren't going to hang out heads in shame that he missed EVERY discussion about "how to talk to vendors", "SAN", inverted pyramids of doom and even the stock Dell sales scam of the last decade on SW. He definitely never asked anyone to check this over before turning the company's IT decision making over to a slimy sales guy.

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