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Very different from what the police said before.
Yes, much different then the official statement. The pedestrian was still breaking the law of course by jay walking and not having the proper safety equipment on the bike. But this isn't looking good for Uber or the police department.
I think Uber's tech here is to blame (or at least share some of it). It will be interesting to see what the NTSB report says.
The question remains, if this was something that was preventable with a human, why didn't the human do something?
I'm not defending the Uber tech, but only pointing out that since there was a human tasked with preventing this, and they failed as well, the Uber tech can't be any more at fault than the existing human. And if the auto-driving tech meets the quality of humans, then that's good enough. Not ideal, but good enough.
Well of course it meets the quality of humans when the human is not actually doing what they are supposed to either.
Right, but that's part of where "humans aren't good at this." I'm not saying Uber isn't at fault, only that the Uber tech and the Uber driver seem to share that responsibility here.
The expectation though is that computers should, no must be better than humans are driving, avoiding collisions with obstacles, traversing bad weather conditions etc.
Being as good as humans is a simple bar to leap over. They have to be better.
The "backup driver" was distracted, looking away from the road the entire time. The person who crossed the road obviously made a bad judgement call.
The computer should've had the insight to see an obstacle that was moving in it's path and come to a complete stop as soon as possible.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
Very different from what the police said before.
Yes, much different then the official statement. The pedestrian was still breaking the law of course by jay walking and not having the proper safety equipment on the bike. But this isn't looking good for Uber or the police department.
I think Uber's tech here is to blame (or at least share some of it). It will be interesting to see what the NTSB report says.
The question remains, if this was something that was preventable with a human, why didn't the human do something?
I'm not defending the Uber tech, but only pointing out that since there was a human tasked with preventing this, and they failed as well, the Uber tech can't be any more at fault than the existing human. And if the auto-driving tech meets the quality of humans, then that's good enough. Not ideal, but good enough.
Well of course it meets the quality of humans when the human is not actually doing what they are supposed to either.
Right, but that's part of where "humans aren't good at this." I'm not saying Uber isn't at fault, only that the Uber tech and the Uber driver seem to share that responsibility here.
Agreed all parties involved, Uber, the driver, and the pedestrian share blame in this. My point is that these conditions have been shown by other AV companies doing pretty much the same thing and the AI responds as expected. That's where I'm seeing this as a Uber tech issue and not an AV issue.
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In addition to being backed by Russian hackers, supposedly, Pro-Brexit campaigners may have used third party organizations to violate advertising spending limits.
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Talk of Welsh independence vote.
"Under the pledge, if elected, Plaid Cymru would establish a Wales national carrier with direct connections to the Americas and mainland Europe, create a national energy grid, set up a national housing company and provide free university education for Welsh students."
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Corbyn fires Smith for recommending another Brexit referendum - a necessity given the knowledge now that the first one had tampering.
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Interesting medical news: The Wobbly Head Woman
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Medical students expose that they are not being taught about nutrition - one of the most fundamental components of healthcare.
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Quantas just completed the first non-stop commercial flight from Australia to the UK.
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Mark Zuckerberg apologizes.... by newspaper?
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So the same thing they have been trying to do for the last decade? How is this proposal any different?