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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
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      Also, "farmers" are not people and have not been for years. As a group farmers are businesses. Big business in many cases.

      Yes, these businesses are operated by people, but the "poor farmers" from around my Midwest home town mostly own multiple sports cars for pleasure cruising, etc.

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      • Son of Jor-ElS
        Son of Jor-El
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        "Smart" stuffed animals hacked.

        http://www.networkworld.com/article/3175508/security/821-000-user-records-exposed-due-to-misconfigured-mongodb-for-smart-stuffed-toys.html

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Son of Jor-El
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          @Son-of-Jor-El Is that new or rereporting of something from a couple weeks back? I swear I read about this before.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

            Game industry against Right to Repair bills

            http://m.slashdot.org/story/322963

            This reminds me a lot of the case with Monsanto, where they have a patient on a seed variety, and sue farmers who try to keep seeds for planting later from the crops they grew.

            At least they face a crimes against humanity court for that.

            No. Monsanto legally applied for and was granted a patent for the seed.

            Monsanto sold the seed only to people that signed a contract that stated keeping seed is not allowed.

            Monsanto has done zero wrong and the farmer is in breech of contract.

            This is no different than Jim's case with the Chamber of Commerce. The chamber, as far as we are aware, was in breech of contract.

            Now, if you want to argue if Monsanto should have been allowed to get the patent in the first place, or if their contract should be legal, or anything else, you are free to.

            But, that statement of yours is pure shit.

            What do you mean? I only statdon't d that they went to court for it. Which they have. Your opinion on it being legal or not isn't relevant. They are in court for this. That's what they did is or isn't legal with or without a contract is much of what is in question.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/historic-international-monsanto-tribunal-begins-in-the-hague-300345039.html

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              • NerdyDadN
                NerdyDad
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                The robot uprising started 8 months ago

                Youtube Video

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by JaredBusch

                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  At least they face a crimes against humanity court for that.

                  @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
                  But, that statement of yours is pure shit.

                  What do you mean? I only statdon't d that they went to court for it. Which they have. Your opinion on it being legal or not isn't relevant. They are in court for this. That's what they did is or isn't legal with or without a contract is much of what is in question.

                  You stated it in such a way that you have judged them guilty. The phrase "at least" is the key there. If you want to claim a neutral stance then you can phrase it in such a way to not show support.

                  Monsanto, has done everything for profit. That is what a company is supposed to do is it not. Specific to the cases of seed saving, they seem to also have mostly done it legally.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    You stated it in such a way that you have judged them guilty. The phrase "at least" is the key there. If you want to claim a neutral stance then you can phrase it in such a way to not show support.

                    Yes, I believe that patently life is itself an act against humanity. So only judging them to have done what they and you have claimed that they have done. They've used that patent in unthinkable ways as well including sending illiterate poverty stricken parts of the world into starvation. The "at least" was that they had to go to court for it. I believe everyone involved should be jailed, honestly. It's an unthinkable act. Life should never be patented. It's life, it owns itself.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      Monsanto, has done everything for profit. That is what a company is supposed to do is it not. Specific to the cases of seed saving, they seem to also have mostly done it legally.

                      In the US it has been legal. In many countries, that's not so clear.

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                      • Son of Jor-ElS
                        Son of Jor-El @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Son-of-Jor-El Is that new or rereporting of something from a couple weeks back? I swear I read about this before.

                        The article has today's date at 7:22am, but you know, other news sources will pick up on stuff late.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          Game industry against Right to Repair bills

                          http://m.slashdot.org/story/322963

                          This reminds me a lot of the case with Monsanto, where they have a patient on a seed variety, and sue farmers who try to keep seeds for planting later from the crops they grew.

                          At least they face a crimes against humanity court for that.

                          No. Monsanto legally applied for and was granted a patent for the seed.

                          Monsanto sold the seed only to people that signed a contract that stated keeping seed is not allowed.

                          Monsanto has done zero wrong and the farmer is in breech of contract.

                          This is no different than Jim's case with the Chamber of Commerce. The chamber, as far as we are aware, was in breech of contract.

                          Now, if you want to argue if Monsanto should have been allowed to get the patent in the first place, or if their contract should be legal, or anything else, you are free to.

                          But, that statement of yours is pure shit.

                          The trouble is seed from a season of planting is different than the seed they bought. As you get cross pollination and a different seed as the end result.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            Game industry against Right to Repair bills

                            http://m.slashdot.org/story/322963

                            This reminds me a lot of the case with Monsanto, where they have a patient on a seed variety, and sue farmers who try to keep seeds for planting later from the crops they grew.

                            At least they face a crimes against humanity court for that.

                            No. Monsanto legally applied for and was granted a patent for the seed.

                            Monsanto sold the seed only to people that signed a contract that stated keeping seed is not allowed.

                            Monsanto has done zero wrong and the farmer is in breech of contract.

                            This is no different than Jim's case with the Chamber of Commerce. The chamber, as far as we are aware, was in breech of contract.

                            Now, if you want to argue if Monsanto should have been allowed to get the patent in the first place, or if their contract should be legal, or anything else, you are free to.

                            But, that statement of yours is pure shit.

                            The trouble is seed from a season of planting is different than the seed they bought. As you get cross pollination and a different seed as the end result.

                            Which they could patent 🙂

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              Game industry against Right to Repair bills

                              http://m.slashdot.org/story/322963

                              This reminds me a lot of the case with Monsanto, where they have a patient on a seed variety, and sue farmers who try to keep seeds for planting later from the crops they grew.

                              At least they face a crimes against humanity court for that.

                              No. Monsanto legally applied for and was granted a patent for the seed.

                              Monsanto sold the seed only to people that signed a contract that stated keeping seed is not allowed.

                              Monsanto has done zero wrong and the farmer is in breech of contract.

                              This is no different than Jim's case with the Chamber of Commerce. The chamber, as far as we are aware, was in breech of contract.

                              Now, if you want to argue if Monsanto should have been allowed to get the patent in the first place, or if their contract should be legal, or anything else, you are free to.

                              But, that statement of yours is pure shit.

                              The trouble is seed from a season of planting is different than the seed they bought. As you get cross pollination and a different seed as the end result.

                              Which they could patent 🙂

                              If Monsanto had that genome of seed to patent. If not, just because something is cross bred doesn't mean that a patent extends to it.

                              The terms of the contract say they won't keep seed, which is fine. That's enforceable in a court.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                Game industry against Right to Repair bills

                                http://m.slashdot.org/story/322963

                                This reminds me a lot of the case with Monsanto, where they have a patient on a seed variety, and sue farmers who try to keep seeds for planting later from the crops they grew.

                                At least they face a crimes against humanity court for that.

                                No. Monsanto legally applied for and was granted a patent for the seed.

                                Monsanto sold the seed only to people that signed a contract that stated keeping seed is not allowed.

                                Monsanto has done zero wrong and the farmer is in breech of contract.

                                This is no different than Jim's case with the Chamber of Commerce. The chamber, as far as we are aware, was in breech of contract.

                                Now, if you want to argue if Monsanto should have been allowed to get the patent in the first place, or if their contract should be legal, or anything else, you are free to.

                                But, that statement of yours is pure shit.

                                The trouble is seed from a season of planting is different than the seed they bought. As you get cross pollination and a different seed as the end result.

                                Which they could patent 🙂

                                If Monsanto had that genome of seed to patent. If not, just because something is cross bred doesn't mean that a patent extends to it.

                                The terms of the contract say they won't keep seed, which is fine. That's enforceable in a court.

                                In US court. They sell these all over the world though.

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                                • Son of Jor-ElS
                                  Son of Jor-El
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                                  Police chase ends with 18 year old driver doing a SICK jump!!

                                  http://www.wmur.com/article/watch-chase-comes-to-incredible-end-as-truck-goes-airborne/9078095

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                                  • art_of_shredA
                                    art_of_shred Banned @Son of Jor-El
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                                    @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    Police chase ends with 18 year old driver doing a SICK jump!!

                                    http://www.wmur.com/article/watch-chase-comes-to-incredible-end-as-truck-goes-airborne/9078095

                                    Drive it like you stole it... err... never mind.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @art_of_shred
                                      last edited by

                                      @art_of_shred said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      Police chase ends with 18 year old driver doing a SICK jump!!

                                      http://www.wmur.com/article/watch-chase-comes-to-incredible-end-as-truck-goes-airborne/9078095

                                      Drive it like you stole it... err... never mind.

                                      Man you need a new catch phrase.

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                                      • Son of Jor-ElS
                                        Son of Jor-El @art_of_shred
                                        last edited by

                                        @art_of_shred said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        Police chase ends with 18 year old driver doing a SICK jump!!

                                        http://www.wmur.com/article/watch-chase-comes-to-incredible-end-as-truck-goes-airborne/9078095

                                        Drive it like you stole it... err... never mind.

                                        It reminded me of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKQdlXvbWSU

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @Son of Jor-El
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                                          @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @art_of_shred said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          Police chase ends with 18 year old driver doing a SICK jump!!

                                          http://www.wmur.com/article/watch-chase-comes-to-incredible-end-as-truck-goes-airborne/9078095

                                          Drive it like you stole it... err... never mind.

                                          It reminded me of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKQdlXvbWSU

                                          Man I love that video. I bet that guy feels stupid after that.

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                                          • Son of Jor-ElS
                                            Son of Jor-El
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                                            I love Ford Raptors too, so this is funny and sad all at the same time. More balls than brains, that for sure! LOL

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