AD/AAD: Display Name for Professionals
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Might be more of a survey then anything.
But would it be proper to add the DR. to the display name in AD / AAD for a user?
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No
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@irj said in AD/AAD: Display Name for Professionals:
No
Okay - When you have time, can you explain your thoughts on the matter?
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@gjacobse said in AD/AAD: Display Name for Professionals:
@irj said in AD/AAD: Display Name for Professionals:
No
Okay - When you have time, can you explain your thoughts on the matter?
I don't see how it's relevant in any way to AD. Would you create AD group(s) and mailing groups for doctors? Absolutely.
They would also have it in their signature for anyone they communicate with internally or externally to organization.
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I can see the argument either way, but I personally would vote no. One less thing for the admins to have worry about. Sure it's not much, very unlikely to change for 99.9% of people while they are with the company.
Only reason I see for it is because I assume the name emails show is the display name, and some professionals will really want it to say Dr Mark Jekyll, because you know... they are important.
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@gjacobse said in AD/AAD: Display Name for Professionals:
Might be more of a survey then anything.
But would it be proper to add the DR. to the display name in AD / AAD for a user?
Unless requested, I wouldn't.
Let's say you script the creation of your AD users, and you create
displaynamefrom combininggivennameandsurname. Would you make their first name "Dr. Foo" or the like? Not necessarily a problem to do that, but just something to think through. -
Would I create a group based on; maybe.
It's more of a case of Greeting as such. In the very specific case of someone who is a MD or PhD, they have an investment and in a business environment, should be addressed as such. When you are with a patient you don't address them by George, It's Dr. Seuss... And generally (most) prefer when you call them on the phone, you address them as Dr. Seuss. But (as is the case here and thus the question) ManageEngine ServiceDesk doesn't differentiate as it's pulled from A/AD. When I call someone I don't know if they are a nurse, aid, general user or Dr... and for
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@gjacobse aww, well that makes sense.
That said, Some Drs are above all that shit and don't worry about being called Dr XYZ... Those guys are generally a little easier to work with.
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@dashrender said in AD/AAD: Display Name for Professionals:
@gjacobse aww, well that makes sense.
That said, Some Drs are above all that shit and don't worry about being called Dr XYZ... Those guys are generally a little easier to work with.
Don't disagree - By - I do try to present a professional appearance when I am able to. It's about respect as well.
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Doctor is a personal title or part of the salutation, not part of the name. Like calling someone Mr, Mrs, President, Judge etc. MD is the medical doctor's degree.
AD has a personal title attribute and I think it should go there. And probably not as Dr but as M.D. I believe that is the proper way in formal writing.
So if the Doctor would use his name in a letter it would not be Dr Anthony Fauci, it would be Anthony Fauci, M.D. with the job title being NIAID Director. But if you spoke to him over the phone you would probably say Dr Fauci.
Update:
@gjacobse According to the standard personalTitle should have titles and not degrees. So it would be Dr. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1274#section-9.3.30
Don't know if you can have ServiceDesk pull down attributes such as personal title.
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In many settings I can see it
not beinga problem. But this is a clinic - As my wife is a Doctor, when in her office, I use Dr. (name)... I don't reference the owner with out the Dr. But - (shrug). -
@pete-s said in AD/AAD: Display Name for Professionals:
@gjacobse According to the standard personalTitle should have titles and not degrees. So it would be Dr. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1274#section-9.3.30
MDs are 10 tiers higher than your average person, or at least that's what they think
It's literally the only career where you don't have to the tiniest ounce of respect for your customers yet they expect to be hailed as heros and treated like demigods among pure mortals.
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If it's available to you to use, why would you not use it?
So many people insist you use other titles that require much less education time, why should this be any different?
Plus having the information in AD/AAD doesn't hurt anything.
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@dustinb3403 said in AD/AAD: Display Name for Professionals:
If it's available to you to use, why would you not use it?
Something else to maintain for users to bitch about.
Regards,
Joel, CISSP
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@dustinb3403 said in AD/AAD: Display Name for Professionals:
If it's available to you to use, why would you not use it?
So many people insist you use other titles that require much less education time, why should this be any different?
Plus having the information in AD/AAD doesn't hurt anything.
Really? I'm trying to think of other titles I might run into where I'm expected to use it ... a prist aka Father,
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@gjacobse said in AD/AAD: Display Name for Professionals:
Might be more of a survey then anything.
But would it be proper to add the DR. to the display name in AD / AAD for a user?
Or just give them a pile of Post-its and a marker. They can write "Dr." on them and put'em in front of their name wherever they see it.
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@dashrender said in AD/AAD: Display Name for Professionals:
@dustinb3403 said in AD/AAD: Display Name for Professionals:
If it's available to you to use, why would you not use it?
So many people insist you use other titles that require much less education time, why should this be any different?
Plus having the information in AD/AAD doesn't hurt anything.
Really? I'm trying to think of other titles I might run into where I'm expected to use it ... a prist aka Father,
*This is Bob, he has his CCNA. Please fondle his balls via email. *
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On a related subject, not looking forward to the eventual request(s) to have he/him, she/her etc added to AD and our automatically generated email signatures
