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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      There is a reason that I don't handwrite things. It's just a way of torturing the people that you make attempt to read it.

      Yeah I'm in the same boat. When I was signing the contracts for my mortgage, the lender asked me to not use my actual signature and instead write my name in normal cursive... LOL

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Ha ha, I can't even do that anymore. I've not used cursive since elementary school. It has no purpose anywhere else. Why did it even exist except to be pretentious. It's never been easy to read.

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        • thanksajdotcomT
          thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          Ha ha, I can't even do that anymore. I've not used cursive since elementary school. It has no purpose anywhere else. Why did it even exist except to be pretentious. It's never been easy to read.

          Signatures. That's the only reason left.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            My signature would be a stretch to call cursive.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              There is a reason that I don't handwrite things. It's just a way of torturing the people that you make attempt to read it.

              Including myself.....

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/aVQAWzM_460s.jpg

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                • nadnerBN
                  nadnerB
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                  The common comma:
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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
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                    Like Cursive, there are so many things you're forced to do in school that seem to have little actual relevance or need - the format of siting requirements for research papers, as an example.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      Like Cursive, there are so many things you're forced to do in school that seem to have little actual relevance or need - the format of siting requirements for research papers, as an example.

                      That's a good one. Never used that in college, never would you ever use it in real life. An entire "skill" whose only purpose is to distract you from useful learning in high school. It's trivial to teach yet takes lots of effort on the students' part - exactly the kind of time wasting that teachers look for. Requires no effort or knowledge on the part of the teacher and offers a nearly limitless opportunity to mark off for something that doesn't matter rather than needing to read and comprehend what was actually written.

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        Like Cursive, there are so many things you're forced to do in school that seem to have little actual relevance or need - the format of siting requirements for research papers, as an example.

                        That's a good one. Never used that in college, never would you ever use it in real life. An entire "skill" whose only purpose is to distract you from useful learning in high school. It's trivial to teach yet takes lots of effort on the students' part - exactly the kind of time wasting that teachers look for. Requires no effort or knowledge on the part of the teacher and offers a nearly limitless opportunity to mark off for something that doesn't matter rather than needing to read and comprehend what was actually written.

                        Cursive is good to help you with creating a signature. That's it.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          Like Cursive, there are so many things you're forced to do in school that seem to have little actual relevance or need - the format of siting requirements for research papers, as an example.

                          That's a good one. Never used that in college, never would you ever use it in real life. An entire "skill" whose only purpose is to distract you from useful learning in high school. It's trivial to teach yet takes lots of effort on the students' part - exactly the kind of time wasting that teachers look for. Requires no effort or knowledge on the part of the teacher and offers a nearly limitless opportunity to mark off for something that doesn't matter rather than needing to read and comprehend what was actually written.

                          Not just high school - I'm taking a few courses now.. and they college profs want it too... hell, they even have a website they suggest you use to put it into the 'correct' format. College is definitely 20+ years behind the times!!

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                          • C
                            Carnival Boy
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                            I had to look up cursive. You mean what we call 'joined up writing'? How else do you write if not joined up (ie each letter in a word joins with the next)?

                            Unless I'm missing something.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @Carnival Boy
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                              @Carnival-Boy said:

                              I had to look up cursive. You mean what we call 'joined up writing'? How else do you write if not joined up (ie each letter in a word joins with the next)?

                              Unless I'm missing something.

                              I haven't written cursive since grade school... even my signature is something that can be barely called cursive. When I write (which is basically never) I write in print or block, which is much easier to read, although my handwriting is abysmal.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
                                last edited by

                                @Carnival-Boy said:

                                I had to look up cursive. You mean what we call 'joined up writing'? How else do you write if not joined up (ie each letter in a word joins with the next)?

                                Unless I'm missing something.

                                We call the illegible scrolling thing only done in grade school cursive. That's probably what you call joined up writing.

                                For adult writing by hand we only use printing (not joined up) because it is clearly legible which, in theory, is the only value to having written something.

                                Many people refer to using a combination of the two as "girl writing." Many girls (most, I would guess) adopt a sloppy combination of the two that is kind of ridiculous.

                                Cursive is how they wrote documents and letters in the eighteenth century. It's designed to make writing faster and lazier at the cost of the receiving party being able to read it.

                                In engineering school cursive wasn't even allowed as it was deemed unprofessional to not print clearly and even our printing was modified to ensure maximum accuracy.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @coliver
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                                  @coliver said:

                                  I haven't written cursive since grade school... even my signature is something that can be barely called cursive. When I write (which is basically never) I write in print or block, which is much easier to read, although my handwriting is abysmal.

                                  Same here, I'm physically unable to write cursive anymore, have not used it since grade school and my signature is nothing like cursive.

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                                  • C
                                    Carnival Boy
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                                    So you're saying that none of the letters you write are joined? There is space between each letter? Or am I still missing something?

                                    This is an example of my writing. I'm not the neatest, but here I'm only writing for my own benefit. I don't join every letter, it looks like around half. I couldn't imagine writing any other way without being really, really slow.

                                    writing2.jpeg

                                    What's your writing like?

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                                    • thanksajdotcomT
                                      thanksajdotcom
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                                      My handwriting models after my mother's, which is a hybrid of print and cursive.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                        @thanksaj said:

                                        My handwriting models after my mother's, which is a hybrid of print and cursive.

                                        That's what we call "girl writing." 🙂

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
                                          last edited by

                                          @Carnival-Boy said:

                                          So you're saying that none of the letters you write are joined? There is space between each letter? Or am I still missing something?

                                          This is an example of my writing. I'm not the neatest, but here I'm only writing for my own benefit. I don't join every letter, it looks like around half. I couldn't imagine writing any other way without being really, really slow.

                                          writing2.jpeg

                                          What's your writing like?

                                          Yeah, that is neither cursive nor printing. Your "Add to" is printing, your "domain and uninstall" are cursive.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
                                            last edited by Dashrender

                                            Girl writing, that's a new one.

                                            Here a sample of mine just sitting here on the desk
                                            A few of my characters are done in cursive style, but they still don't link. The main letter that's missing for me that I always do cursive is J my first initial. I like the cursive look better, so I just kept it.
                                            A few things might seem linked, but it's more laziness, not picking the pen/pencil up enough to not leave a mark on the page.

                                            sample.jpg

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