Fitness and Weightloss
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@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
Currently I'm 6 meals a day. First week, lost 2 lbs and gained .6 lbs muscle (I am working out 6 days a week too)
For the median, that's a great way to go. For me, it would completely kill me.
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The same people who say to eat often, also say things like "only eat when you are hungry." So you can prove that it is BS, because the first statement is to eat when not hungry, and the second is to eat when hungry. Can't be both.
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@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
Yeah - that has positives and negatives... a single time per day blood sugar spike isn't considered healthy by many
Yeah, apparently by doctors who look at "averages" and don't consider individual health. It's one of those things where they don't research it and just repeat something that is pretty obviously untrue. Just because something is true for the median, doesn't mean that it is always true or even true for the mean.
It's called the flaw of averages, and one of the reasons to not trust doctors, is because something so basic, they never understand.
Yeah - we've talked about that many times before.
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@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
The same people who say to eat often, also say things like "only eat when you are hungry." So you can prove that it is BS, because the first statement is to eat when not hungry, and the second is to eat when hungry. Can't be both.
OH - I'm eating when not hungry most of the time.
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@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
The same people who say to eat often, also say things like "only eat when you are hungry." So you can prove that it is BS, because the first statement is to eat when not hungry, and the second is to eat when hungry. Can't be both.
OH - I'm eating when not hungry most of the time.
Yeah, seems like a bad idea, right? LOL If you want to lose weight, and your body says "I don't need all of this food you keep making me eat", that seems off.
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@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
The same people who say to eat often, also say things like "only eat when you are hungry." So you can prove that it is BS, because the first statement is to eat when not hungry, and the second is to eat when hungry. Can't be both.
OH - I'm eating when not hungry most of the time.
Yeah, seems like a bad idea, right? LOL If you want to lose weight, and your body says "I don't need all of this food you keep making me eat", that seems off.
on one hand that makes sense - but on the other - it's about keeping the metabolism in high gear all day long.
I'm proof that it works... I've eating more than I was 5 weeks ago - yet still loosing weight and gaining muscle.
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@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
it's about keeping the metabolism in high gear all day long.
Except... that is also a 'person by person' thing. They also say you go into starvation mode after X hours of not eating, but it's easy to demonstrate that not being true, either.
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@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
I'm proof that it works... I've eating more than I was 5 weeks ago - yet still loosing weight and gaining muscle.
No, you are proof that it "can work", which is a completely different thing.
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@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
I'm proof that it works... I've eating more than I was 5 weeks ago - yet still loosing weight and gaining muscle.
No, you are proof that it "can work", which is a completely different thing.
I mean it does work 'for me' as you said... Im' just a single example.
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@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
I'm proof that it works... I've eating more than I was 5 weeks ago - yet still loosing weight and gaining muscle.
No, you are proof that it "can work", which is a completely different thing.
I mean it does work 'for me' as you said... Im' just a single example.
And I'm proof that the opposite works for me. The difference is, we understand that different people have different needs, and most doctors just randomly choose something that "worked once" and apply it to everyone without learning if that is something intrinsic to humans, or something specific to a group of people.
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@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
Yeah - that has positives and negatives... a single time per day blood sugar spike isn't considered healthy by many
Yeah, apparently by doctors who look at "averages" and don't consider individual health. It's one of those things where they don't research it and just repeat something that is pretty obviously untrue. Just because something is true for the median, doesn't mean that it is always true or even true for the mean.
It's called the flaw of averages, and one of the reasons to not trust doctors, is because something so basic, they never understand.
If one doesn't know where to start, starting with suggestions that work for most people isn't a bad place to start, and then adjust accordingly to your own individual needs and requirements.
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@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
I've found that eating earlier in the day, and trying to eat when it is convenient for others rather than when it is good for me, are the top factors that derail my weight loss and make it hard for me to eat healthily. If I eat before I'm really hungry, I get hungry all day thinking about food. If I skip the early meals, I never get hungry in the first place (almost never), until late in the day.
I can relate. I'm down 150 pounds in the last 3 years, taking meals in a "social" setting is a killer for me. I also skip breakfast and lunch, taking breakfast only once every couple of months, and lunch only once or twice a month. I find that I don't even think about food until about 3:30pm and at that time, I'm only two hours from dinner at home.
I find sit down dinners with my wife and kids and making sure we spend enough time at the table to talk about each other's events from the day allows me to eat slower, and therefore, LESS!
The only thing I count is CARBS (it's the only thing that has worked over the years of yo-yo weight loss attempts). My target each day is zero carbs. I come in at about 40 per day. Haven't had bread or potatoes in years....
I so much enjoy watching all of your progress! Kudos to all of you!
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@JasGot said in Fitness and Weightloss:
I can relate. I'm down 150 pounds in the last 3 years, taking meals in a "social" setting is a killer for me. I also skip breakfast and lunch, taking breakfast only once every couple of months, and lunch only once or twice a month. I find that I don't even think about food until about 3:30pm and at that time, I'm only two hours from dinner at home.
That's me, but I don't think about food till more like 6PM!!
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@JasGot said in Fitness and Weightloss:
I so much enjoy watching all of your progress! Kudos to all of you!
I once lost 99lbs doing a low carb diet with @Texkonc and it was good for almost two years but travel triggered me to lose it and gain the weight back. This time I'm trying something more sustainable. And I don't worry about the carbs.
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@Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
Yeah - that has positives and negatives... a single time per day blood sugar spike isn't considered healthy by many
Yeah, apparently by doctors who look at "averages" and don't consider individual health. It's one of those things where they don't research it and just repeat something that is pretty obviously untrue. Just because something is true for the median, doesn't mean that it is always true or even true for the mean.
It's called the flaw of averages, and one of the reasons to not trust doctors, is because something so basic, they never understand.
If one doesn't know where to start, starting with suggestions that work for most people isn't a bad place to start, and then adjust accordingly to your own individual needs and requirements.
Yes, testing the averages is a good starting point. Doctors don't test, though, they always try to "adjust you back" if you try to tweak to what works for you.
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@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
Yeah - that has positives and negatives... a single time per day blood sugar spike isn't considered healthy by many
Yeah, apparently by doctors who look at "averages" and don't consider individual health. It's one of those things where they don't research it and just repeat something that is pretty obviously untrue. Just because something is true for the median, doesn't mean that it is always true or even true for the mean.
It's called the flaw of averages, and one of the reasons to not trust doctors, is because something so basic, they never understand.
If one doesn't know where to start, starting with suggestions that work for most people isn't a bad place to start, and then adjust accordingly to your own individual needs and requirements.
Yes, testing the averages is a good starting point. Doctors don't test, though, they always try to "adjust you back" if you try to tweak to what works for you.
This is generally true, because the US health system isn't about keeping you healthy.. it's about fixing you only after you're broken.
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Down 31lbs now.
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Down 13.2 kg (29.04 lbs) since April 17, 2019 (3.5 months).
I did hit my 2 weeks under 100kg checkpoint in July and have not been in danger of going back.
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I'm stuck, 173 lbs. Can't seem to make any headway.
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@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
I'm stuck, 173 lbs. Can't seem to make any headway.
Have you recalculated everything using your current stats? This way you can adjust accordingly?
