VOIP Provider: Skyetel
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@Dashrender said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
So where does this stand?
I get that at least they are better than many vendors out there - those that don't provide any online pricing at all... but how much better are they really?
They do, they have public pricing for consumers. It's low, but not the lowest.
If you call them, though, you will get far better pricing that isn't public. And they have complex reasons as to why they want it to have to be that way.
And yes, the prices are REALLY LOW.
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@Dashrender said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
They still require at minimum a conversation, though likely more like a conversation or 3, plus copies of the current bills from a customer of ours we would consider moving to them?
Copies of bills is what they state publicly will be needed. If you are a reseller, or an MSP, or a real IT pro capable of explaining your situation, they don't need bills.
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@scottalanmiller said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
And yes, the prices are REALLY LOW.
... but not as low as twilio or voip.ms?
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@bnrstnr said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
@scottalanmiller said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
And yes, the prices are REALLY LOW.
... but not as low as twilio or voip.ms?
Who do publish their low prices.
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@bnrstnr said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
@scottalanmiller said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
And yes, the prices are REALLY LOW.
... but not as low as twilio or voip.ms?
WAY lower.
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@Dashrender said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
@bnrstnr said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
@scottalanmiller said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
And yes, the prices are REALLY LOW.
... but not as low as twilio or voip.ms?
Who do publish their low prices.
Not even in the ballpark, though.
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@bnrstnr said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
@scottalanmiller said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
And yes, the prices are REALLY LOW.
... but not as low as twilio or voip.ms?
Twilio is lower than VoIP.ms.
And the rates stated before are lower than Twilio, supposedly.
But SIP trunking is already a real low margin game.
Someone coming in significantly lower than existing known pricing makes me very skeptical.
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I'm still not happy with company and their methods. They obviously converted @scottalanmiller by paying him off (advertising here).
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@JaredBusch said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
I'm still not happy with company and their methods. They obviously converted @scottalanmiller by paying him off (advertising here).
They started advertising here after we had already gotten pricing and started to move over to them. They had reached out to talk after I had long conversations with @FATeknollogee and @markjcrane about them and why I should give them a chance.
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@JaredBusch said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
Twilio is lower than VoIP.ms.
Not according to the published prices. They are both .0085 to receive, but voip.ms is .01 to send and Twilio is .013.
I'm sure you can get lower with Twilio, but it looks like you have to go to unpublished prices to do it.
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@scottalanmiller said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
@JaredBusch said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
Twilio is lower than VoIP.ms.
Not according to the published prices. They are both .0085 to receive, but voip.ms is .01 to send and Twilio is .013.
I'm sure you can get lower with Twilio, but it looks like you have to go to unpublished prices to do it.
Bzzt wrong. Nice try please play again.
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@JaredBusch said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
@scottalanmiller said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
@JaredBusch said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
Twilio is lower than VoIP.ms.
Not according to the published prices. They are both .0085 to receive, but voip.ms is .01 to send and Twilio is .013.
I'm sure you can get lower with Twilio, but it looks like you have to go to unpublished prices to do it.
Bzzt wrong. Nice try please play again.
https://www.twilio.com/pricing
https://www.voip.ms/en/rates/united-statesSorry, .09, not .085 for voip.ms, but Twilio is only "starting" at .085. Twilio lists their lowest rate, voip.ms lists their flat rate. voip.ms is cheaper for sending and DIDs, Twilio starts cheaper for receiving, but is variable.
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@scottalanmiller said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
Nope still wrong.
@scottalanmiller Can you not be bothered to remember things that you yourself have raved about prior to the current shiny thing?
Programmable Voice is not SIP trunking.
Elastic SIP Trunking would be the correct product.
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I've never used those numbers before. Those are quite a bit better. We use PV mostly, so those are what we see most of the time. Didn't realize that they were different.
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@scottalanmiller said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
I've never used those numbers before. Those are quite a bit better. We use PV mostly, so those are what we see most of the time. Didn't realize that they were different.
Bzzzt wrong answer.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/13020/estimating-sip-trunk-costs/10
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@JaredBusch said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
@scottalanmiller said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
I've never used those numbers before. Those are quite a bit better. We use PV mostly, so those are what we see most of the time. Didn't realize that they were different.
Bzzzt wrong answer.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/13020/estimating-sip-trunk-costs/10
Ah, it was a drop. I'd forgotten that they had changed it. We've not reevaluated them since then. Especially as Skyetel is still cheaper, and we need voip.ms for some of our markets (non-US they offer really great stuff.) So for normal US SIP trunks, Twilio is quite a bit cheaper than voip.ms, but not quite Skyetel, but public pricing.
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@scottalanmiller said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
I've never used those numbers before. Those are quite a bit better. We use PV mostly, so those are what we see most of the time. Didn't realize that they were different.
I'm calling bullshit.
You 100% do not use Programmable Voice. That requires use of the API for calling.
You have SIP trunks. You have a post someplace (here or Telegram)where you mentioned you used PJSIP and Asterisk 15.
Edit: Telegram June 19, 2018.
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@JaredBusch said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
@scottalanmiller said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
I've never used those numbers before. Those are quite a bit better. We use PV mostly, so those are what we see most of the time. Didn't realize that they were different.
I'm calling bullshit.
You 100% do not use Programmable Voice. That requires use of the API for calling.
Correct, it is called via API from a C# application. That's the largest system that we manage. 100,000 users on the system. The system does automatic call setup, it's essentially a custom, automated, distributed call center. But it's for outbound, not inbound, and not for sales.
We 100% use programmable voice NOT SIP trunking for the vast majority of our Twilio usage. Insane call volume, the cost per month is crazy.
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@JaredBusch said in VOIP Provider: Skyetel:
You have SIP trunks. You have a post someplace (here or Telegram)where you mentioned you used PJSIP and Asterisk 15.
I DO have a few, but the volume is trivial compared to our API Programmable Voice calling. The same company with the PV uses one Twilio trunk for some normal office calling, but it's less than 1% of their total volume. And NTG has a trunk for testing, but we don't use it for normal calling.
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