Backing up user data on remote computers
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From an earlier What Are You Doing Right Now post:
Right now most of the laptops have an external hard drive attached to their old Dell E-Port Plus dock and Windows File History running. Problem is the drive isn't always recognized as the users take their laptops off on and off the dock. I figure I can eliminate the drive altogether and get their data backed up off-site with one of those services.
The top two contenders right now seem to be CrashPlan for Small Business and BackBlaze Business Backup.
Both offer the features I need:
- Automatic backup of user files to off-site location
- Portal to manage backups and restoration
The price difference between the two is significant. CrashPlan for Small Business would be $120 / year / computer and BackBlaze Business Backup is $50 / year / computer. From what I can see the a major difference is that CrashPlan offers longer retention than BackBlaze.
Have you folks used other services besides these? If so, what did you think of them?
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We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
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@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
Are you running your instance of NextCloud in a VPS with extra block storage for your files, or using their enterprise plan?
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@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
Are you running your instance of NextCloud in a VPS with extra block storage for your files, or using their enterprise plan?
We run out own.
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@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
Are you running your instance of NextCloud in a VPS with extra block storage for your files, or using their enterprise plan?
We run out own.
Forgive me for seeming thick, but you mean on your own hardware in your office or at a data center?
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@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
Are you running your instance of NextCloud in a VPS with extra block storage for your files, or using their enterprise plan?
We run out own.
Forgive me for seeming thick, but you mean on your own hardware in your office or at a data center?
I run my own NC instance for @Bundy-Associates on our servers in a colo.
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@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
Are you running your instance of NextCloud in a VPS with extra block storage for your files, or using their enterprise plan?
We run out own.
Forgive me for seeming thick, but you mean on your own hardware in your office or at a data center?
We never run on premises for production.
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@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
Are you running your instance of NextCloud in a VPS with extra block storage for your files, or using their enterprise plan?
We run out own.
Forgive me for seeming thick, but you mean on your own hardware in your office or at a data center?
We never run on premises for production.
I figured not; thus, they're at a colo.
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@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
Are you running your instance of NextCloud in a VPS with extra block storage for your files, or using their enterprise plan?
We run out own.
Forgive me for seeming thick, but you mean on your own hardware in your office or at a data center?
We never run on premises for production.
I figured not; thus, they're at a colo.
No, we use cloud computing.
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@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
Are you running your instance of NextCloud in a VPS with extra block storage for your files, or using their enterprise plan?
We run out own.
Forgive me for seeming thick, but you mean on your own hardware in your office or at a data center?
We never run on premises for production.
I figured not; thus, they're at a colo.
No, we use cloud computing.
Somehow I'm confused, so you are running your NextCloud in a cloud server instance like Vultr?
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@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
Are you running your instance of NextCloud in a VPS with extra block storage for your files, or using their enterprise plan?
We run out own.
Forgive me for seeming thick, but you mean on your own hardware in your office or at a data center?
We never run on premises for production.
I figured not; thus, they're at a colo.
No, we use cloud computing.
Somehow I'm confused, so you are running your NextCloud in a cloud server instance like Vultr?
Of course.
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@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
Are you running your instance of NextCloud in a VPS with extra block storage for your files, or using their enterprise plan?
We run out own.
Ah, then I misunderstood your answer. You were saying "no" to using their enterprise plans and "yes" to using a (or possibly another) Vultr instance to run your own server.
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@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
So using next cloud as a sync service i believe? More like Dropbox or one drive? If that's the case do you keep version history and give that back if a user request for restore?
We have similar requirements and was looking at backblaze too
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Crashplan is by far my favorite solution. It is more expensive than others (like Backblaze), but the ease of use and ability to set it and forget it have been wonderful.
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@ambarishrh said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
So using next cloud as a sync service i believe?
That's really its only purpose. Could you use it in some other way, sure. But it exists only to be a sync service.
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@ambarishrh said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
If that's the case do you keep version history and give that back if a user request for restore?
They manage that themselves.
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We have office 365 with one drive and I am currently evaluating this to be used for users desktop and my documents backup/sync. Users can't see any other locations, so configuring those directories to be mapped to one drive would give them 1TB storage and j can enable longer retention on one drive admin.
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@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
Are you running your instance of NextCloud in a VPS with extra block storage for your files, or using their enterprise plan?
We run out own.
Forgive me for seeming thick, but you mean on your own hardware in your office or at a data center?
We never run on premises for production.
I figured not; thus, they're at a colo.
No, we use cloud computing.
Somehow I'm confused, so you are running your NextCloud in a cloud server instance like Vultr?
He's using NextCLOUD within a CLOUD......like Inception...
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@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
Are you running your instance of NextCloud in a VPS with extra block storage for your files, or using their enterprise plan?
We run out own.
Forgive me for seeming thick, but you mean on your own hardware in your office or at a data center?
We never run on premises for production.
I figured not; thus, they're at a colo.
No, we use cloud computing.
Somehow I'm confused, so you are running your NextCloud in a cloud server instance like Vultr?
Of course.
I'm assuming you're using the native sync clients? Are you using both Windows and Linux clients or just Linux? I've tried the Windows one on a couple laptops and found that the synching was really clunky and not working well. Have you run into any issues?
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@nashbrydges said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@eddiejennings said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up user data on remote computers:
We use NextCloud, then only back that up, not the remote user devices.
Are you running your instance of NextCloud in a VPS with extra block storage for your files, or using their enterprise plan?
We run out own.
Forgive me for seeming thick, but you mean on your own hardware in your office or at a data center?
We never run on premises for production.
I figured not; thus, they're at a colo.
No, we use cloud computing.
Somehow I'm confused, so you are running your NextCloud in a cloud server instance like Vultr?
Of course.
I'm assuming you're using the native sync clients? Are you using both Windows and Linux clients or just Linux? I've tried the Windows one on a couple laptops and found that the synching was really clunky and not working well. Have you run into any issues?
Both. All Linux internal, it's rock solid. Some Windows for external users, and they do have some issues. But... that's expected, it's Windows.
