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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @pmoncho
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        @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

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        Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

        Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
        Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

        It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

        Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

        It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

        You are.

        If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
        Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

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        If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
        MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

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        We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

        Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

        I cannot up vote this enough. You can add spreadsheets to the abused and extremely inefficiently used platform, IMHO.

        I had a customer tell me that they use email as a CYA - so therefore they never delete anything. /sigh...sadly, nothing really works the same to provide this - at least not that I know of.

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          CYA

          CYA?

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            scotth @Obsolesce
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            @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            CYA

            CYA?

            Cover Your Ass

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @travisdh1
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              @travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

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              @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

              Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
              Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

              It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

              Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

              It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

              You are.

              If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
              Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

              745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

              If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
              MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

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              We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

              Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

              I cannot up vote this enough. You can add spreadsheets to the abused and extremely inefficiently used platform, IMHO.

              And I can't upvote this enough. Have you ever had to deal with MS Dynamics? shudders

              Is that the thing we used to call Great Pains?

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              • wrx7mW
                wrx7m @dafyre
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                @dafyre Yup

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                • wrx7mW
                  wrx7m @Obsolesce
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                  @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

                  Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
                  Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

                  It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

                  Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

                  It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

                  You are.

                  If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
                  Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

                  745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

                  If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
                  MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

                  1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

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                  We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

                  I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

                  True. However, if you are the only person doing all of IT for 100 users and don't have a ticketing system, chat is an interruption and the presumption is that it is an instant response. No way can I instantly respond based on my workload.

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                    Researchers Easily Trick Cylance's AI-Based Antivirus Into Thinking Malware Is 'Goodware'

                    By taking strings from an online gaming program and appending them to malicious files, researchers were able to trick Cylance’s AI-based antivirus engine into thinking programs like WannaCry and other malware are benign.

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                    • wrx7mW
                      wrx7m @Danp
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                      @Danp said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      Researchers Easily Trick Cylance's AI-Based Antivirus Into Thinking Malware Is 'Goodware'

                      By taking strings from an online gaming program and appending them to malicious files, researchers were able to trick Cylance’s AI-based antivirus engine into thinking programs like WannaCry and other malware are benign.

                      Oh no.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @wrx7m
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                        @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

                        Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
                        Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

                        It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

                        Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

                        It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

                        You are.

                        If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
                        Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

                        745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

                        If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
                        MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

                        1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

                        c0875da9-a5ba-4b66-a13e-0f077f2c8980-image.png

                        69aa2821-d16b-4e96-8dd4-321c9f87c220-image.png

                        We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

                        I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

                        True. However, if you are the only person doing all of IT for 100 users and don't have a ticketing system, chat is an interruption and the presumption is that it is an instant response. No way can I instantly respond based on my workload.

                        That isn't why companies get teams or slack. Totally incorrect use case for chat. It's a collaboration tool, not a customer/user support tool.

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                        • wrx7mW
                          wrx7m @Obsolesce
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                          @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

                          Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
                          Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

                          It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

                          Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

                          It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

                          You are.

                          If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
                          Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

                          745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

                          If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
                          MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

                          1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

                          c0875da9-a5ba-4b66-a13e-0f077f2c8980-image.png

                          69aa2821-d16b-4e96-8dd4-321c9f87c220-image.png

                          We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

                          I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

                          True. However, if you are the only person doing all of IT for 100 users and don't have a ticketing system, chat is an interruption and the presumption is that it is an instant response. No way can I instantly respond based on my workload.

                          That isn't why companies get teams or slack. Totally incorrect use case for chat. It's a collaboration tool, not a customer/user support tool.

                          Right. But then that is all they use for communication. At least, here, that is the case.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @wrx7m
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                            @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

                            Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
                            Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

                            It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

                            Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

                            It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

                            You are.

                            If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
                            Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

                            745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

                            If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
                            MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

                            1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

                            c0875da9-a5ba-4b66-a13e-0f077f2c8980-image.png

                            69aa2821-d16b-4e96-8dd4-321c9f87c220-image.png

                            We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

                            I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

                            True. However, if you are the only person doing all of IT for 100 users and don't have a ticketing system, chat is an interruption and the presumption is that it is an instant response. No way can I instantly respond based on my workload.

                            That isn't why companies get teams or slack. Totally incorrect use case for chat. It's a collaboration tool, not a customer/user support tool.

                            Right. But then that is all they use for communication. At least, here, that is the case.

                            It works well where I am. The ticketing system and service desk is for support, slack is for collaboration and such.

                            In your case, you'd probably not use it much unless you are working on designing an IT solution with another department or other IT team members.

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                            • wrx7mW
                              wrx7m @Obsolesce
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                              @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

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                              @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              Slack isn’t worried about Microsoft’s big Teams push

                              Slack’s CEO compares Microsoft’s Teams bundling to Google+
                              Microsoft revealed last week that it now has more than 13 million people using its Microsoft Teams chat software, a milestone that means the app has overtaken Slack.

                              It's hard not to agree. Actual engagement is the only thing that matters.

                              Actually, it's businesses being willing to pay for the service is all that matters.

                              It’s not something you pay extra for since it’s bundled with O365.

                              You are.

                              If you want Slack, it's not because you also want Google Sheets or Zimbra email with XYZ. It's because you want Slack because of what business needs it covers.
                              Slack is $6-$12 per user per month.

                              745bbcc0-e244-444c-8022-3194fa2bc875-image.png

                              If you just want MS Teams (which is a legit need by the way), too bad, you also have to pay for other stuff you may or may not need or use.
                              MS Teams will cost you $5, which is cheaper than Slack, which does NOT include Office or Office Suite, but does include Exchange... whether or not you need it. To get Office, it's a minimum of $12.50 for Business Premium (< 300 users). Otherwise, you're buying enterprise O365 licenses which just goes up.

                              1d77261e-485c-4281-9b48-da517d3d4a5a-image.png

                              c0875da9-a5ba-4b66-a13e-0f077f2c8980-image.png

                              69aa2821-d16b-4e96-8dd4-321c9f87c220-image.png

                              We switched from SFB/Teams to slack plus. Waste of money IMO. I didn't like either of them because I don't like chat for work.

                              I like it because chatting via email is dumb. Email is really abused and extremely inefficient for most of what it's typically used for within most organisations.

                              True. However, if you are the only person doing all of IT for 100 users and don't have a ticketing system, chat is an interruption and the presumption is that it is an instant response. No way can I instantly respond based on my workload.

                              That isn't why companies get teams or slack. Totally incorrect use case for chat. It's a collaboration tool, not a customer/user support tool.

                              Right. But then that is all they use for communication. At least, here, that is the case.

                              It works well where I am. The ticketing system and service desk is for support, slack is for collaboration and such.

                              In your case, you'd probably not use it much unless you are working on designing an IT solution with another department or other IT team members.

                              Yeah. So, that is why I don't want to use it. People want to use it for instant messaging when they have a question about some random shit like, my screen sometimes turns off and I have to press the power button to turn it on again.

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                              • mlnewsM
                                mlnews
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                                Dropbox silently installs new file manager app on users’ systems

                                Dropbox ambushes its users with a radically different version of its sync app.
                                Hey Dropbox users, how has Dropbox been for you lately? Major changes are coming to the Dropbox desktop app

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                                  wrx7m @mlnews
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                                  @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  Dropbox silently installs new file manager app on users’ systems

                                  Dropbox ambushes its users with a radically different version of its sync app.
                                  Hey Dropbox users, how has Dropbox been for you lately? Major changes are coming to the Dropbox desktop app

                                  Just read about this.

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                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Just saw that on machines here with Dropbox.

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                                    • hobbit666H
                                      hobbit666 @dafyre
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                                      @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      Is that the thing we used to call Great Pains?

                                      That's what we use. It amazing !!!

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                                        black3dynamite @travisdh1
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                                        @travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        Proxmox VE 6.0 available with Ceph Nautilus and Corosync 3
                                        https://www.proxmox.com/en/news/press-releases/proxmox-ve-6-0

                                        Corosync at least makes sense. Ceph I can see being useful. Nautilus on my hypervisor tho, why?

                                        There's like 52 additional packages to install. Are you thinking of File manager nautilus? It looks like a full package install of Ceph.

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                                          Office 365 'Private Preview' Adds New Deletion Safeguard for Groups

                                          Microsoft on Thursday announced a "private preview" of a new groups expiration behavior for organizations using the Office 365 Groups service that relies on user activity as a safeguard against inadvertent group deletion.
                                          Group expirations are needed to clean up groups that get created and then abandoned in organizations.

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                                            Microsoft Previews Prometheus Data in Azure Monitor for Containers

                                            Microsoft has enabled its Azure Monitor for Containers management product to get data from the open source Prometheus monitoring solution.
                                            The Prometheus integration with Azure Monitor for Containers is currently at the preview stage for testing, according to Microsoft's Thursday announcement.

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