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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      Now JB's going to say, most American homes are 1200-1500 sqft and putting the router on one side or the other of the house should still normally cover the entire house. And I'd sad if that was true, we wouldn't be seeing the massive sales in Mesh networks because people are trying to solve dead spots in their home

      Even at a 1500sqft house, it's easy to have coverage problems. Those built in all in ones have terrible coverage compared to a cheap business AP.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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        @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        APs have a 99% of the time "placement matters" factor.

        Not in most residential homes in America.

        Most that I know it does. They get terrible wifi because they can't put it where they need it because it is all integrated. There are exceptions, but most people seem to just live with flaky wifi rather than fix it because it is so commonly bad that they've learned to accept the problems rather than realize it is a trivial fix.

        most American homes are 1200-1500 sqft and putting the router on one side or the other of the house should still normally cover the entire house. And I'd sad if that was true, we wouldn't be seeing the massive sales in Mesh networks because people are trying to solve dead spots in their homes.

        I have exactly this situation in my 1200 sqft split-level home and even though my UAP-AC-LITE is only 50' away, it drops off like a stone when I step directly outside my sliding glass door into my aluminium awning patio. The AP is to my on one side of my house on the ceiling in the basement (just so I could get some access in the patio.) I don't have a way to run a cable or electric to the best spot in the home. Isn't worth that much trouble so I leave it where it is.

        My AP is semi-central in 2000 sq ft and can reach all of my neighbours, and our cars while driving down the street 🙂

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        • mlnewsM
          mlnews
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          Report: Tesla to slash solar panel prices by 38% to stymie market share loss

          Soft costs are a major part of solar installation, and Tesla hopes to cut them down.
          In Tesla's first-quarter financial statement last week, the company said that it would revitalize sluggish solar panel sales by streamlining the purchase process.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            Now JB's going to say, most American homes are 1200-1500 sqft and putting the router on one side or the other of the house should still normally cover the entire house. And I'd sad if that was true, we wouldn't be seeing the massive sales in Mesh networks because people are trying to solve dead spots in their homes.

            It is true, and I call it good marketing.

            Marketing works. You bought your wife a diamond engagement ring right?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @mlnews
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              @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              Report: Tesla to slash solar panel prices by 38% to stymie market share loss

              Soft costs are a major part of solar installation, and Tesla hopes to cut them down.
              In Tesla's first-quarter financial statement last week, the company said that it would revitalize sluggish solar panel sales by streamlining the purchase process.

              Right as we are discussing replacing the roof....

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                last edited by JaredBusch

                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                Report: Tesla to slash solar panel prices by 38% to stymie market share loss

                Soft costs are a major part of solar installation, and Tesla hopes to cut them down.
                In Tesla's first-quarter financial statement last week, the company said that it would revitalize sluggish solar panel sales by streamlining the purchase process.

                Right as we are discussing replacing the roof....

                Still need to have normal roofing, though.

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                • pmonchoP
                  pmoncho @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  Now JB's going to say, most American homes are 1200-1500 sqft and putting the router on one side or the other of the house should still normally cover the entire house. And I'd sad if that was true, we wouldn't be seeing the massive sales in Mesh networks because people are trying to solve dead spots in their home

                  Even at a 1500sqft house, it's easy to have coverage problems. Those built in all in ones have terrible coverage compared to a cheap business AP.

                  I have to hand it to my older Netgear Router. It did good for a long time. The UAP-AC-LITE does give me better access (all things considered) in the patio.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    Report: Tesla to slash solar panel prices by 38% to stymie market share loss

                    Soft costs are a major part of solar installation, and Tesla hopes to cut them down.
                    In Tesla's first-quarter financial statement last week, the company said that it would revitalize sluggish solar panel sales by streamlining the purchase process.

                    Right as we are discussing replacing the roof....

                    Still need to have normal roofing, though.

                    But the big cost is the humans going up there in the first place.

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      Now JB's going to say, most American homes are 1200-1500 sqft and putting the router on one side or the other of the house should still normally cover the entire house. And I'd sad if that was true, we wouldn't be seeing the massive sales in Mesh networks because people are trying to solve dead spots in their homes.

                      It is true, and I call it good marketing.

                      Marketing works. You bought your wife a diamond engagement ring right?

                      Moissanite is great.

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                      • pmonchoP
                        pmoncho @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        APs have a 99% of the time "placement matters" factor.

                        Not in most residential homes in America.

                        Most that I know it does. They get terrible wifi because they can't put it where they need it because it is all integrated. There are exceptions, but most people seem to just live with flaky wifi rather than fix it because it is so commonly bad that they've learned to accept the problems rather than realize it is a trivial fix.

                        most American homes are 1200-1500 sqft and putting the router on one side or the other of the house should still normally cover the entire house. And I'd sad if that was true, we wouldn't be seeing the massive sales in Mesh networks because people are trying to solve dead spots in their homes.

                        I have exactly this situation in my 1200 sqft split-level home and even though my UAP-AC-LITE is only 50' away, it drops off like a stone when I step directly outside my sliding glass door into my aluminium awning patio. The AP is to my on one side of my house on the ceiling in the basement (just so I could get some access in the patio.) I don't have a way to run a cable or electric to the best spot in the home. Isn't worth that much trouble so I leave it where it is.

                        My AP is semi-central in 2000 sq ft and can reach all of my neighbours, and our cars while driving down the street 🙂

                        Nice. Being in the front of the house, all is well. When her daughter is walking home from bus stop, she gets a signal from about 600' up the street but I have issues at 50' being in a patio that has aluminium posts and ceiling.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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                          @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          APs have a 99% of the time "placement matters" factor.

                          Not in most residential homes in America.

                          Most that I know it does. They get terrible wifi because they can't put it where they need it because it is all integrated. There are exceptions, but most people seem to just live with flaky wifi rather than fix it because it is so commonly bad that they've learned to accept the problems rather than realize it is a trivial fix.

                          most American homes are 1200-1500 sqft and putting the router on one side or the other of the house should still normally cover the entire house. And I'd sad if that was true, we wouldn't be seeing the massive sales in Mesh networks because people are trying to solve dead spots in their homes.

                          I have exactly this situation in my 1200 sqft split-level home and even though my UAP-AC-LITE is only 50' away, it drops off like a stone when I step directly outside my sliding glass door into my aluminium awning patio. The AP is to my on one side of my house on the ceiling in the basement (just so I could get some access in the patio.) I don't have a way to run a cable or electric to the best spot in the home. Isn't worth that much trouble so I leave it where it is.

                          My AP is semi-central in 2000 sq ft and can reach all of my neighbours, and our cars while driving down the street 🙂

                          Nice. Being in the front of the house, all is well. When her daughter is walking home from bus stop, she gets a signal from about 600' up the street but I have issues at 50' being in a patio that has aluminium posts and ceiling.

                          I want to do an outdoor antennae at some point. I want to see if I can light up the whole block so that I can get service while out walking.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            APs have a 99% of the time "placement matters" factor.

                            Not in most residential homes in America.

                            Most that I know it does. They get terrible wifi because they can't put it where they need it because it is all integrated. There are exceptions, but most people seem to just live with flaky wifi rather than fix it because it is so commonly bad that they've learned to accept the problems rather than realize it is a trivial fix.

                            most American homes are 1200-1500 sqft and putting the router on one side or the other of the house should still normally cover the entire house. And I'd sad if that was true, we wouldn't be seeing the massive sales in Mesh networks because people are trying to solve dead spots in their homes.

                            I have exactly this situation in my 1200 sqft split-level home and even though my UAP-AC-LITE is only 50' away, it drops off like a stone when I step directly outside my sliding glass door into my aluminium awning patio. The AP is to my on one side of my house on the ceiling in the basement (just so I could get some access in the patio.) I don't have a way to run a cable or electric to the best spot in the home. Isn't worth that much trouble so I leave it where it is.

                            My AP is semi-central in 2000 sq ft and can reach all of my neighbours, and our cars while driving down the street 🙂

                            Nice. Being in the front of the house, all is well. When her daughter is walking home from bus stop, she gets a signal from about 600' up the street but I have issues at 50' being in a patio that has aluminium posts and ceiling.

                            I want to do an outdoor antennae at some point. I want to see if I can light up the whole block so that I can get service while out walking.

                            That is not too hard to do (cover the block) with the right unit up in the peak of the attic (but the heat...) or mounted on the top corner of the house someplace.

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                            • RojoLocoR
                              RojoLoco @Obsolesce
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                              @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              Now JB's going to say, most American homes are 1200-1500 sqft and putting the router on one side or the other of the house should still normally cover the entire house. And I'd sad if that was true, we wouldn't be seeing the massive sales in Mesh networks because people are trying to solve dead spots in their homes.

                              It is true, and I call it good marketing.

                              Marketing works. You bought your wife a diamond engagement ring right?

                              Moissanite is great.

                              Anytime I hear that word, I can't help but think of that scene from the movie Snatch.

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                              • pmonchoP
                                pmoncho @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                APs have a 99% of the time "placement matters" factor.

                                Not in most residential homes in America.

                                Most that I know it does. They get terrible wifi because they can't put it where they need it because it is all integrated. There are exceptions, but most people seem to just live with flaky wifi rather than fix it because it is so commonly bad that they've learned to accept the problems rather than realize it is a trivial fix.

                                most American homes are 1200-1500 sqft and putting the router on one side or the other of the house should still normally cover the entire house. And I'd sad if that was true, we wouldn't be seeing the massive sales in Mesh networks because people are trying to solve dead spots in their homes.

                                I have exactly this situation in my 1200 sqft split-level home and even though my UAP-AC-LITE is only 50' away, it drops off like a stone when I step directly outside my sliding glass door into my aluminium awning patio. The AP is to my on one side of my house on the ceiling in the basement (just so I could get some access in the patio.) I don't have a way to run a cable or electric to the best spot in the home. Isn't worth that much trouble so I leave it where it is.

                                My AP is semi-central in 2000 sq ft and can reach all of my neighbours, and our cars while driving down the street 🙂

                                Nice. Being in the front of the house, all is well. When her daughter is walking home from bus stop, she gets a signal from about 600' up the street but I have issues at 50' being in a patio that has aluminium posts and ceiling.

                                I want to do an outdoor antennae at some point. I want to see if I can light up the whole block so that I can get service while out walking.

                                That is not too hard to do (cover the block) with the right unit up in the peak of the attic (but the heat...) or mounted on the top corner of the house someplace.

                                Do you know of one that could possible work? I just need somewhere to start. Need about a 1/2 mile in diameter.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @pmoncho
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                                  @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  APs have a 99% of the time "placement matters" factor.

                                  Not in most residential homes in America.

                                  Most that I know it does. They get terrible wifi because they can't put it where they need it because it is all integrated. There are exceptions, but most people seem to just live with flaky wifi rather than fix it because it is so commonly bad that they've learned to accept the problems rather than realize it is a trivial fix.

                                  most American homes are 1200-1500 sqft and putting the router on one side or the other of the house should still normally cover the entire house. And I'd sad if that was true, we wouldn't be seeing the massive sales in Mesh networks because people are trying to solve dead spots in their homes.

                                  I have exactly this situation in my 1200 sqft split-level home and even though my UAP-AC-LITE is only 50' away, it drops off like a stone when I step directly outside my sliding glass door into my aluminium awning patio. The AP is to my on one side of my house on the ceiling in the basement (just so I could get some access in the patio.) I don't have a way to run a cable or electric to the best spot in the home. Isn't worth that much trouble so I leave it where it is.

                                  My AP is semi-central in 2000 sq ft and can reach all of my neighbours, and our cars while driving down the street 🙂

                                  Nice. Being in the front of the house, all is well. When her daughter is walking home from bus stop, she gets a signal from about 600' up the street but I have issues at 50' being in a patio that has aluminium posts and ceiling.

                                  I want to do an outdoor antennae at some point. I want to see if I can light up the whole block so that I can get service while out walking.

                                  That is not too hard to do (cover the block) with the right unit up in the peak of the attic (but the heat...) or mounted on the top corner of the house someplace.

                                  Do you know of one that could possible work? I just need somewhere to start to go about 1/2 mile in diameter.

                                  Your phone likely won't talk back that far, so it is pointless.

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                                  • pmonchoP
                                    pmoncho @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    APs have a 99% of the time "placement matters" factor.

                                    Not in most residential homes in America.

                                    Most that I know it does. They get terrible wifi because they can't put it where they need it because it is all integrated. There are exceptions, but most people seem to just live with flaky wifi rather than fix it because it is so commonly bad that they've learned to accept the problems rather than realize it is a trivial fix.

                                    most American homes are 1200-1500 sqft and putting the router on one side or the other of the house should still normally cover the entire house. And I'd sad if that was true, we wouldn't be seeing the massive sales in Mesh networks because people are trying to solve dead spots in their homes.

                                    I have exactly this situation in my 1200 sqft split-level home and even though my UAP-AC-LITE is only 50' away, it drops off like a stone when I step directly outside my sliding glass door into my aluminium awning patio. The AP is to my on one side of my house on the ceiling in the basement (just so I could get some access in the patio.) I don't have a way to run a cable or electric to the best spot in the home. Isn't worth that much trouble so I leave it where it is.

                                    My AP is semi-central in 2000 sq ft and can reach all of my neighbours, and our cars while driving down the street 🙂

                                    Nice. Being in the front of the house, all is well. When her daughter is walking home from bus stop, she gets a signal from about 600' up the street but I have issues at 50' being in a patio that has aluminium posts and ceiling.

                                    I want to do an outdoor antennae at some point. I want to see if I can light up the whole block so that I can get service while out walking.

                                    That is not too hard to do (cover the block) with the right unit up in the peak of the attic (but the heat...) or mounted on the top corner of the house someplace.

                                    Do you know of one that could possible work? I just need somewhere to start to go about 1/2 mile in diameter.

                                    Your phone likely won't talk back that far, so it is pointless.

                                    Good point.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Fedora 30 has released!

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        Fedora 30 has released!

                                        Not going on my desktop yet.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          Now JB's going to say, most American homes are 1200-1500 sqft and putting the router on one side or the other of the house should still normally cover the entire house. And I'd sad if that was true, we wouldn't be seeing the massive sales in Mesh networks because people are trying to solve dead spots in their homes.

                                          It is true, and I call it good marketing.

                                          Marketing works. You bought your wife a diamond engagement ring right?

                                          I did, but not one worth 3 months salary - that shit's just crazy!

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                            @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            Now JB's going to say, most American homes are 1200-1500 sqft and putting the router on one side or the other of the house should still normally cover the entire house. And I'd sad if that was true, we wouldn't be seeing the massive sales in Mesh networks because people are trying to solve dead spots in their homes.

                                            It is true, and I call it good marketing.

                                            Marketing works. You bought your wife a diamond engagement ring right?

                                            I'd say it's more than marketing - the cost of those mesh networks frequently start at $300, most consumers won't be dropping that unless they have a wifi problem they are trying to solve.

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