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    • mlnewsM
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      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/01/fcc-broadband-committee-wants-to-restrict-publicly-owned-networks/

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      • mlnewsM
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        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/01/net-neutrality-will-be-enforced-in-new-york-under-orders-from-governor/

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        • DustinB3403D
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          California defies the FCC and approves Net Neutrality Law

          The Montana and New York executive orders focus exclusively on the purchasing requirements for state agencies instead of imposing requirements directly on ISPs. The California bill is a more direct challenge to the FCC's preemption order because it requires all ISPs to follow net neutrality rules regardless of whether they provide Internet service to state agencies.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @DustinB3403
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            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            California defies the FCC and approves Net Neutrality Law

            The Montana and New York executive orders focus exclusively on the purchasing requirements for state agencies instead of imposing requirements directly on ISPs. The California bill is a more direct challenge to the FCC's preemption order because it requires all ISPs to follow net neutrality rules regardless of whether they provide Internet service to state agencies.

            Very funny to see CA on the leading edge of something worthwhile.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

              @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

              California defies the FCC and approves Net Neutrality Law

              The Montana and New York executive orders focus exclusively on the purchasing requirements for state agencies instead of imposing requirements directly on ISPs. The California bill is a more direct challenge to the FCC's preemption order because it requires all ISPs to follow net neutrality rules regardless of whether they provide Internet service to state agencies.

              Very funny to see CA on the leading edge of something worthwhile.

              That's actually something CA is famous for.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @Dashrender
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                @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                California defies the FCC and approves Net Neutrality Law

                The Montana and New York executive orders focus exclusively on the purchasing requirements for state agencies instead of imposing requirements directly on ISPs. The California bill is a more direct challenge to the FCC's preemption order because it requires all ISPs to follow net neutrality rules regardless of whether they provide Internet service to state agencies.

                Very funny to see CA on the leading edge of something worthwhile.

                We just made it illegal to sell animals from animal mills.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
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                  @tim_g said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  California defies the FCC and approves Net Neutrality Law

                  The Montana and New York executive orders focus exclusively on the purchasing requirements for state agencies instead of imposing requirements directly on ISPs. The California bill is a more direct challenge to the FCC's preemption order because it requires all ISPs to follow net neutrality rules regardless of whether they provide Internet service to state agencies.

                  Very funny to see CA on the leading edge of something worthwhile.

                  We just made it illegal to sell animals from animal mills.

                  Do you mean puppy mills? So how do you get the pet you want, rather than whatever you happen to snatch from a shelter?

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @DustinB3403
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                    @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @tim_g said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    California defies the FCC and approves Net Neutrality Law

                    The Montana and New York executive orders focus exclusively on the purchasing requirements for state agencies instead of imposing requirements directly on ISPs. The California bill is a more direct challenge to the FCC's preemption order because it requires all ISPs to follow net neutrality rules regardless of whether they provide Internet service to state agencies.

                    Very funny to see CA on the leading edge of something worthwhile.

                    We just made it illegal to sell animals from animal mills.

                    Do you mean puppy mills? So how do you get the pet you want, rather than whatever you happen to snatch from a shelter?

                    I don't know much about it. But there are plenty of ways to get pets besides the horrible puppy mills.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                      last edited by

                      @tim_g said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @tim_g said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      California defies the FCC and approves Net Neutrality Law

                      The Montana and New York executive orders focus exclusively on the purchasing requirements for state agencies instead of imposing requirements directly on ISPs. The California bill is a more direct challenge to the FCC's preemption order because it requires all ISPs to follow net neutrality rules regardless of whether they provide Internet service to state agencies.

                      Very funny to see CA on the leading edge of something worthwhile.

                      We just made it illegal to sell animals from animal mills.

                      Do you mean puppy mills? So how do you get the pet you want, rather than whatever you happen to snatch from a shelter?

                      I don't know much about it. But there are plenty of ways to get pets besides the horrible puppy mills.

                      I can agree that most puppy mills are horrible. I can also say I know a few people who breed dogs, and don't treat their pets like trash, only to produce more trash.

                      I understand, just curious what the plan is for the future. (purebreeds = inbred) so I would never get a purebred animal of any kind.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @tim_g said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @tim_g said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        California defies the FCC and approves Net Neutrality Law

                        The Montana and New York executive orders focus exclusively on the purchasing requirements for state agencies instead of imposing requirements directly on ISPs. The California bill is a more direct challenge to the FCC's preemption order because it requires all ISPs to follow net neutrality rules regardless of whether they provide Internet service to state agencies.

                        Very funny to see CA on the leading edge of something worthwhile.

                        We just made it illegal to sell animals from animal mills.

                        Do you mean puppy mills? So how do you get the pet you want, rather than whatever you happen to snatch from a shelter?

                        I don't know much about it. But there are plenty of ways to get pets besides the horrible puppy mills.

                        I can agree that most puppy mills are horrible. I can also say I know a few people who breed dogs, and don't treat their pets like trash, only to produce more trash.

                        I understand, just curious what the plan is for the future. (purebreeds = inbred) so I would never get a purebred animal of any kind.

                        My general understanding as well

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @DustinB3403
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                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          I can also say I know a few people who breed dogs,

                          That's not a puppy mill, so much better.

                          I"m sure the details are out there. If they can't get them from puppy mills, so I think they must get them from better means.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            @tim_g said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            I can also say I know a few people who breed dogs,

                            That's not a puppy mill, so much better.

                            I"m sure the details are out there. If they can't get them from puppy mills, so I think they must get them from better means.

                            They have more than a few pairs of dogs, hence I'd call it "when working" a puppy mill. But the dogs live with the family etc.

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                            • DashrenderD
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                              I know a guy who has what i guess you guys would call a bird mill. He has around 50 pairs of birds that have babies that he sells.

                              I've been to the place, it's really clean, nice setup.

                              I'm guessing this law is for the slovenly, those who have their breeding pairs in horrible living conditions, and solely look at the animals as means to income.

                              But then again, look at chicken farms these days.. birds in small cages they can barely turn around in.. ug. 😞

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @Dashrender
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                                @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                I know a guy who has what i guess you guys would call a bird mill. He has around 50 pairs of birds that have babies that he sells.

                                I've been to the place, it's really clean, nice setup.

                                I'm guessing this law is for the slovenly, those who have their breeding pairs in horrible living conditions, and solely look at the animals as means to income.

                                But then again, look at chicken farms these days.. birds in small cages they can barely turn around in.. ug. 😞

                                Those are the egg producers. The chickens that end up as dinner are generally treated much better. Ask any farmer, if the animal isn't happy, it negatively effects their income. This assumes you can find someone who actually owns a farm and isn't working for a mega farming corp.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @travisdh1
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                                  @travisdh1 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  I know a guy who has what i guess you guys would call a bird mill. He has around 50 pairs of birds that have babies that he sells.

                                  I've been to the place, it's really clean, nice setup.

                                  I'm guessing this law is for the slovenly, those who have their breeding pairs in horrible living conditions, and solely look at the animals as means to income.

                                  But then again, look at chicken farms these days.. birds in small cages they can barely turn around in.. ug. 😞

                                  Those are the egg producers. The chickens that end up as dinner are generally treated much better. Ask any farmer, if the animal isn't happy, it negatively effects their income. This assumes you can find someone who actually owns a farm and isn't working for a mega farming corp.

                                  Just so happens that I do. I get my cow from him. I pay for calf, he raises it (I pay for those costs), then sends it to slaughter, then I pay the butcher.

                                  Same goes for turkeys and chickens (both are free range on his farm).

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @Dashrender
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                                    @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @travisdh1 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    I know a guy who has what i guess you guys would call a bird mill. He has around 50 pairs of birds that have babies that he sells.

                                    I've been to the place, it's really clean, nice setup.

                                    I'm guessing this law is for the slovenly, those who have their breeding pairs in horrible living conditions, and solely look at the animals as means to income.

                                    But then again, look at chicken farms these days.. birds in small cages they can barely turn around in.. ug. 😞

                                    Those are the egg producers. The chickens that end up as dinner are generally treated much better. Ask any farmer, if the animal isn't happy, it negatively effects their income. This assumes you can find someone who actually owns a farm and isn't working for a mega farming corp.

                                    Just so happens that I do. I get my cow from him. I pay for calf, he raises it (I pay for those costs), then sends it to slaughter, then I pay the butcher.

                                    Same goes for turkeys and chickens (both are free range on his farm).

                                    Lucky man. I have an all organic farm that I buy what little meat I eat from.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @travisdh1
                                      last edited by

                                      @travisdh1 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @travisdh1 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      I know a guy who has what i guess you guys would call a bird mill. He has around 50 pairs of birds that have babies that he sells.

                                      I've been to the place, it's really clean, nice setup.

                                      I'm guessing this law is for the slovenly, those who have their breeding pairs in horrible living conditions, and solely look at the animals as means to income.

                                      But then again, look at chicken farms these days.. birds in small cages they can barely turn around in.. ug. 😞

                                      Those are the egg producers. The chickens that end up as dinner are generally treated much better. Ask any farmer, if the animal isn't happy, it negatively effects their income. This assumes you can find someone who actually owns a farm and isn't working for a mega farming corp.

                                      Just so happens that I do. I get my cow from him. I pay for calf, he raises it (I pay for those costs), then sends it to slaughter, then I pay the butcher.

                                      Same goes for turkeys and chickens (both are free range on his farm).

                                      Lucky man. I have an all organic farm that I buy what little meat I eat from.

                                      eat little because you only want a little? or other reasons?

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @travisdh1 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @travisdh1 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        I know a guy who has what i guess you guys would call a bird mill. He has around 50 pairs of birds that have babies that he sells.

                                        I've been to the place, it's really clean, nice setup.

                                        I'm guessing this law is for the slovenly, those who have their breeding pairs in horrible living conditions, and solely look at the animals as means to income.

                                        But then again, look at chicken farms these days.. birds in small cages they can barely turn around in.. ug. 😞

                                        Those are the egg producers. The chickens that end up as dinner are generally treated much better. Ask any farmer, if the animal isn't happy, it negatively effects their income. This assumes you can find someone who actually owns a farm and isn't working for a mega farming corp.

                                        Just so happens that I do. I get my cow from him. I pay for calf, he raises it (I pay for those costs), then sends it to slaughter, then I pay the butcher.

                                        Same goes for turkeys and chickens (both are free range on his farm).

                                        Lucky man. I have an all organic farm that I buy what little meat I eat from.

                                        eat little because you only want a little? or other reasons?

                                        Because I only want a little. I'm not so carnivorous as most people here.

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                                          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/02/californias-net-neutrality-bill-is-vulnerable-to-legal-attack-eff-says/

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