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    FCC Chairman Proposing Some Sad Alternatives to Net Neutrality

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    • mlnewsM
      mlnews
      last edited by

      The net neutrality debate in American goes on. The proposal is getting vendors to just "commit" to being open, without rules requiring such. No one is sure what this is supposed to mean. "Hope for the best" seems to be the basic idea.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
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        If the Internet service providers were not monopolies we would have a chance for something like that to work but that kind of ruling now is just stupid

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          Hey guys, it's cool if we all just trust that these businesses care about us, they won't rob us blind or take advantage of us. It's cool..

          Freaking insane... can someone can this guy already and get someone competent up there.

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @mlnews
            last edited by

            @mlnews Either blind, or very short sighted. I wonder, does New York City have enough wired ISP to have a competitive playing field and the top people just assume that's the same case across the entire country?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              There must be a 100 major ISP providers in NYC and Washington.... I know of 4 ISPs in Rochester.

              Spectrum (timewarner)
              Frontier
              WindStream
              GreenLight (my current provider)

              Is that really a competitive market?

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said in FCC Chairman Proposing Some Sad Alternatives to Net Neutrality:

                There must be a 100 major ISP providers in NYC and Washington.... I know of 4 ISPs in Rochester.

                Spectrum (timewarner)
                Frontier
                WindStream
                GreenLight (my current provider)

                Is that really a competitive market?

                That's way more competitive than most places. At home we've got MCTV and CenturyLink. At work we've got CenturtyLink, or CenturyLink 😞

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @travisdh1
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                  @travisdh1 said in FCC Chairman Proposing Some Sad Alternatives to Net Neutrality:

                  @DustinB3403 said in FCC Chairman Proposing Some Sad Alternatives to Net Neutrality:

                  There must be a 100 major ISP providers in NYC and Washington.... I know of 4 ISPs in Rochester.

                  Spectrum (timewarner)
                  Frontier
                  WindStream
                  GreenLight (my current provider)

                  Is that really a competitive market?

                  That's way more competitive than most places. At home we've got MCTV and CenturyLink. At work we've got CenturtyLink, or CenturyLink 😞

                  Canada is the same, couple big conglomerates serve the masses. Our rules are slightly different so that providers have to share poles & pipes so it would be rare to see an area served by only one provider. Same story though - to build an ISP these days requires megabucks

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in FCC Chairman Proposing Some Sad Alternatives to Net Neutrality:

                    If the Internet service providers were not monopolies we would have a chance for something like that to work but that kind of ruling now is just stupid

                    Ya if the companies weren't allowed to use things like Eminent Domain to block competitors and we actually had a free market it would be different. More regulations aren't going to fix this. Giving other companies a chance to exist will.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates
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                      Maybe the best solution currently are WISPs.

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @stacksofplates
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                        @stacksofplates said in FCC Chairman Proposing Some Sad Alternatives to Net Neutrality:

                        Maybe the best solution currently are WISPs.

                        We're supposed to have 2 of those in the area, one isn't attached to any towers yet (so no distribution), and the other one is partnered with the one that doesn't have any distribution, boo!

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @travisdh1
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                          @travisdh1 said in FCC Chairman Proposing Some Sad Alternatives to Net Neutrality:

                          @stacksofplates said in FCC Chairman Proposing Some Sad Alternatives to Net Neutrality:

                          Maybe the best solution currently are WISPs.

                          We're supposed to have 2 of those in the area, one isn't attached to any towers yet (so no distribution), and the other one is partnered with the one that doesn't have any distribution, boo!

                          I don't even know of any in our area but I haven't looked either.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver
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                            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/john-oliver-tackles-net-neutrality-again-crashes-fcc-comments-site-again

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