What Are You Watching Now

scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:

@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

I find it hard to believe it made as much money as something else would have without alienating so many people.

The same people who loved the originals are also up there in age, so they likely aren't a profitable demographic as say as 12 year old who's maybe only heard their dad talking about it.

Really? have you seen what are called "high end collectables"? midrange items cost $200, expensive items cost north of $1000.

Hell Disney sells $250 light sabers in parks, and the amount you see walking around are almost staggering

That a few old people buy expensive collectables does not a large market make. But I'm not surprised if it is a big market, just saying that high cost collectables exist for every niche and generally earn very little.

scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:

@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Watching Now:

@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

I find it hard to believe it made as much money as something else would have without alienating so many people.

The same people who loved the originals are also up there in age, so they likely aren't a profitable demographic as say as 12 year old who's maybe only heard their dad talking about it.

at what age do you "get up there in age"
just curious.

Ask @Dashrender

I'm 44, I don't consider myself 'getting up there'

Well, we are.

Dashrender

@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:

@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Watching Now:

@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

I find it hard to believe it made as much money as something else would have without alienating so many people.

The same people who loved the originals are also up there in age, so they likely aren't a profitable demographic as say as 12 year old who's maybe only heard their dad talking about it.

at what age do you "get up there in age"
just curious.

Ask @Dashrender

I'm 44, I don't consider myself 'getting up there'

Fair enough.

Of course - that said - I was only 1 year old when the movie released... so I'm not a first gen fan.. that would be my 25 year old parents - but even they aren't who the movie was made for - it was made for 15-18 year olds of the time, but star wars today, at least these last three movies, to me, seem more for who those 15-18 yr olds are today... the prequels kept their original audience (ok a many years younger) the 11-16 yr olds of the day....

scottalanmiller

@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:

IMHO the problem with movie/tv for SciFi and Fantasy is that generically speaking filmmakers do not truly understand what draws people to the genre. There is an assumption that it is graphics, violence, explosions, nostalgic IPs, sex, etc., when it really comes down to the stories that can be told and ideas explored within a universe that fundamentally makes sense. So, they make movies that are Pocahontas in space and wonder why people don't think it is amazing. Unfortunately they have massive marketing budgets so many people go and see the movies or watch the show and so it is a commercial success without actually landing with the real audience. If you want to see how hungry fans of the genre are for this content, look at how quickly the Critical Role animated TV show funded on kickstarter.

Well, at this point, what draws people to Star Wars is that stuff. That's why sci fi people generally don't like it anymore from what I can tell. Even the most die hard "I'm a geek millennial and have to like this stuff" fans that I know are starting to think it's bad. The people you'd be sure would overlook that stuff because it's so marketed at them.

Star Wars was never a sci fi, even Lucas made a point of this in the 1970s. It's set in space, but that's not enough to be a sci fi. Fantasy, yes. Action, yes. But not sci fi.

Dashrender

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:

@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Watching Now:

@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

I find it hard to believe it made as much money as something else would have without alienating so many people.

The same people who loved the originals are also up there in age, so they likely aren't a profitable demographic as say as 12 year old who's maybe only heard their dad talking about it.

at what age do you "get up there in age"
just curious.

Ask @Dashrender

I'm 44, I don't consider myself 'getting up there'

Well, we are.

We are? I consider 60 getting up there - close to typical retirement, etc.

Kelly

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:

IMHO the problem with movie/tv for SciFi and Fantasy is that generically speaking filmmakers do not truly understand what draws people to the genre. There is an assumption that it is graphics, violence, explosions, nostalgic IPs, sex, etc., when it really comes down to the stories that can be told and ideas explored within a universe that fundamentally makes sense. So, they make movies that are Pocahontas in space and wonder why people don't think it is amazing. Unfortunately they have massive marketing budgets so many people go and see the movies or watch the show and so it is a commercial success without actually landing with the real audience. If you want to see how hungry fans of the genre are for this content, look at how quickly the Critical Role animated TV show funded on kickstarter.

Well, at this point, what draws people to Star Wars is that stuff. That's why sci fi people generally don't like it anymore from what I can tell. Even the most die hard "I'm a geek millennial and have to like this stuff" fans that I know are starting to think it's bad. The people you'd be sure would overlook that stuff because it's so marketed at them.

Star Wars was never a sci fi, even Lucas made a point of this in the 1970s. It's set in space, but that's not enough to be a sci fi. Fantasy, yes. Action, yes. But not sci fi.

I listed Sci Fi and fantasy. Star Wars is Science Fantasy in my book. Either way it doesn't change my statements because I am addressing the whole spectrum.

scottalanmiller

@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@Kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:

IMHO the problem with movie/tv for SciFi and Fantasy is that generically speaking filmmakers do not truly understand what draws people to the genre. There is an assumption that it is graphics, violence, explosions, nostalgic IPs, sex, etc., when it really comes down to the stories that can be told and ideas explored within a universe that fundamentally makes sense. So, they make movies that are Pocahontas in space and wonder why people don't think it is amazing. Unfortunately they have massive marketing budgets so many people go and see the movies or watch the show and so it is a commercial success without actually landing with the real audience. If you want to see how hungry fans of the genre are for this content, look at how quickly the Critical Role animated TV show funded on kickstarter.

Well, at this point, what draws people to Star Wars is that stuff. That's why sci fi people generally don't like it anymore from what I can tell. Even the most die hard "I'm a geek millennial and have to like this stuff" fans that I know are starting to think it's bad. The people you'd be sure would overlook that stuff because it's so marketed at them.

Star Wars was never a sci fi, even Lucas made a point of this in the 1970s. It's set in space, but that's not enough to be a sci fi. Fantasy, yes. Action, yes. But not sci fi.

I listed Sci Fi and fantasy. Star Wars is Science Fantasy in my book. Either way it doesn't change my statements because I am addressing the whole spectrum.

Understood, just saying it's a different kind of audience than traditional sci fi. The thing about SW is that it's set in space, but other than "not being on earth" and there being space travel, it's all fantasy. It has magic and magical races and lacks any science behind the technology - they treat it all as just magic. Which isn't bad, it's nice to have something set in space that isn't sci fi, helps to broaded the genre of fantasy.

JaredBusch

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Watching Now:

@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

I find it hard to believe it made as much money as something else would have without alienating so many people.

The same people who loved the originals are also up there in age, so they likely aren't a profitable demographic as say as 12 year old who's maybe only heard their dad talking about it.

Really? have you seen what are called "high end collectables"? midrange items cost $200, expensive items cost north of $1000.

Hell Disney sells $250 light sabers in parks, and the amount you see walking around are almost staggering

That a few old people buy expensive collectables does not a large market make. But I'm not surprised if it is a big market, just saying that high cost collectables exist for every niche and generally earn very little.