What Are You Doing Right Now
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@notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Trying to figure out why 25% of our office 2019 installs fail.
install in a master image once and then it either works for everyone or is borked for everyone
That's good if you are going to re-image for every software release. Which is feasible, but extremely heavy.
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Reinstalling Cisco AMP on XenApp server golden images.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Trying to figure out why 25% of our office 2019 installs fail.
install in a master image once and then it either works for everyone or is borked for everyone
That's good if you are going to re-image for every software release. Which is feasible, but extremely heavy.
You mean heavy looking at the image size or looking at the IT overhead?
Image size, my W10 image with a bunch of apps is smaller than my W7 image with nothing installed, even after running all of the crap removal tools and dism image cleanup stuff that I could find.
From an overhead / maintenance point of view I've moved to using MDT + VirtualBox for our W10 image. This way it rebuilds the image from scratch every time. Been doing it this way for about a year now and haven't run into any problems. Takes about an hour from pxe booting the VM against the deployment share until I'm capturing the new image against our FOG master server. From there it automatically gets sync'd to the FOG storage nodes at our remote sites. This way there's no old update or version cruft that follows from month to month and when we want to test a new windows version or software I can copy the whole task sequence and play with it before changing the baseline / benchmark.
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@notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
You mean heavy looking at the image size or looking at the IT overhead?
As in overhead... deploying a new full image for app installations.
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Automating certbot. . . because
https://blog.chef.io/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/automate-all-the-things-300x224.png
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@DustinB3403 I haven't needed to manually renew any of my web servers in years now. It's great.
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@notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
From an overhead / maintenance point of view I've moved to using MDT + VirtualBox for our W10 image. This way it rebuilds the image from scratch every time. Been doing it this way for about a year now and haven't run into any problems. Takes about an hour from pxe booting the VM against the deployment share until I'm capturing the new image against our FOG master server. From there it automatically gets sync'd to the FOG storage nodes at our remote sites. This way there's no old update or version cruft that follows from month to month and when we want to test a new windows version or software I can copy the whole task sequence and play with it before changing the baseline / benchmark.
This part isn't bad. Making the baseline is pretty easy and totally sensible. It's needing to roll that baseline out to every machine to do the install. If it is one app, once a year... trivial. If apps go at different times to different people, and there are many of them, it's a problem.
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 I haven't needed to manually renew any of my web servers in years now. It's great.
Yeah. . . I'm doing it because I had too. . . because of reasons. . .
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Automating certbot. . . because
https://blog.chef.io/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/automate-all-the-things-300x224.png
Found out my Employer's Certificate Supplier is supporting Certbot now... for an additional fee, of course.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
From an overhead / maintenance point of view I've moved to using MDT + VirtualBox for our W10 image. This way it rebuilds the image from scratch every time. Been doing it this way for about a year now and haven't run into any problems. Takes about an hour from pxe booting the VM against the deployment share until I'm capturing the new image against our FOG master server. From there it automatically gets sync'd to the FOG storage nodes at our remote sites. This way there's no old update or version cruft that follows from month to month and when we want to test a new windows version or software I can copy the whole task sequence and play with it before changing the baseline / benchmark.
This part isn't bad. Making the baseline is pretty easy and totally sensible. It's needing to roll that baseline out to every machine to do the install. If it is one app, once a year... trivial. If apps go at different times to different people, and there are many of them, it's a problem.
Yeah, we try to avoid app installs once the HW has been deployed so that possibility didn't come to mind.
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Automating certbot. . . because
https://blog.chef.io/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/automate-all-the-things-300x224.png
Found out my Employer's Certificate Supplier is supporting Certbot now... for an additional fee, of course.
Eh. . . so you're not using them any more right?
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Automating certbot. . . because
https://blog.chef.io/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/automate-all-the-things-300x224.png
Found out my Employer's Certificate Supplier is supporting Certbot now... for an additional fee, of course.
Eh. . . so you're not using them any more right?
I'm pushing for it, but it's above my pay grade.
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Automating certbot. . . because
https://blog.chef.io/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/automate-all-the-things-300x224.png
Found out my Employer's Certificate Supplier is supporting Certbot now... for an additional fee, of course.
Eh. . . so you're not using them any more right?
I'm pushing for it, but it's above my pay grade.
I push for all sorts of things above my pay grade, especially stupid things like not having automated LE!
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Automating certbot. . . because
https://blog.chef.io/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/automate-all-the-things-300x224.png
Found out my Employer's Certificate Supplier is supporting Certbot now... for an additional fee, of course.
Eh. . . so you're not using them any more right?
I'm pushing for it, but it's above my pay grade.
I push for all sorts of things above my pay grade, especially stupid things like not having automated LE!
Oh, I do too. Somethings I make progress on, and others, it's like talking to a brick wall. This one may actually be a State policy, but I mention it as often as I can to people who matter.
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@notverypunny I do have that in both of my faculty and student images. Some faculty workstations are just too much of a pain to reimage. They have document solution software, the government financial aid stuff which took a lot of patches to get working reliably because their database runs on Access. It is for these systems I want it working reliably.
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@jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@notverypunny I do have that in both of my faculty and student images. Some faculty workstations are just too much of a pain to reimage. They have document solution software, the government financial aid stuff which took a lot of patches to get working reliably because their database runs on Access. It is for these systems I want it working reliably.
Yeah, I get it. One of my former gigs was in the construction industry. I avoided re-imaging / reformatting most machines there unless necessary, too many specialized applications for estimating and design.
For your Office 2019 issue, I expect you've already looked at conflicts due to existing crud on the machine? Like the O365 garbage that probably comes shipped, or is it auto-installed now with the build updates?
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@notverypunny It is the same Windows 10 image I use for everyone. I image every new piece for hardware that comes my way. We have Windows 10 Education version. Yes when I image I get rid of most things I can. So we are talking about identical systems where 25% just hang and never install. I thought it was network related but I don't think so now.
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@jmoore I've never had great success running office installers (2013 / 2016) from a network share (which is what I assume you're trying to do based on the networking theory). I always copied the files over to the machine or did up a deployment package that cached the installer locally before executing.
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@notverypunny I have been trying both ways. It does the same thing when I use powershell to copy over the folder to the target's c:\ drive and run from there. I also went to the machine personally and it will not run. I went to another machine close by and do the same thing and it will run. When I go to machines personally I carry a flash drive with the folder and configuration files all inside and then just run from cmd or powershell so the process is identical. Some just don't work though and I'm trying to figure out why.
