What Are You Doing Right Now
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@srsmith said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
QuickBooks this morning:
Oh, you want to have a report emailed to certain users on a schedule? No problem! I just need you to turn off UAC and leave QuickBooks running, logged in to your company file and running in single user mode.What idiot at Intuit (or whoever Intuit bought QuickBooks from) thought that this was an acceptable solution? I can understand the need for things like a verify and rebuild, but for running and emailing a simple query report? Anyone with the correct permissions can manually achieve the same thing in multi-user mode...
Once again, due to Intuit's extraordinary ability to screw up basic functionality, I need to create a custom app, using their own SDK, that I can automate with the Windows task scheduler.
No one at Intuit thought that it was acceptable. It's the customer who buy it that tell them that they accept it. It is acceptable because the customers vote with their wallets that it is so. The quesiton is, why do so many customers think that this is good?
Because there is nothing quite as comparable to the ease of use from an accounting standpoint.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@srsmith said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
QuickBooks this morning:
Oh, you want to have a report emailed to certain users on a schedule? No problem! I just need you to turn off UAC and leave QuickBooks running, logged in to your company file and running in single user mode.What idiot at Intuit (or whoever Intuit bought QuickBooks from) thought that this was an acceptable solution? I can understand the need for things like a verify and rebuild, but for running and emailing a simple query report? Anyone with the correct permissions can manually achieve the same thing in multi-user mode...
Once again, due to Intuit's extraordinary ability to screw up basic functionality, I need to create a custom app, using their own SDK, that I can automate with the Windows task scheduler.
No one at Intuit thought that it was acceptable. It's the customer who buy it that tell them that they accept it. It is acceptable because the customers vote with their wallets that it is so. The quesiton is, why do so many customers think that this is good?
Because there is nothing quite as comparable to the ease of use from an accounting standpoint.
I find that unlikely. It's painfully slow and problematic. That people already know it, yes, given. That it is easier for an accountant to learn and use, essentially impossible.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@srsmith said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
QuickBooks this morning:
Oh, you want to have a report emailed to certain users on a schedule? No problem! I just need you to turn off UAC and leave QuickBooks running, logged in to your company file and running in single user mode.What idiot at Intuit (or whoever Intuit bought QuickBooks from) thought that this was an acceptable solution? I can understand the need for things like a verify and rebuild, but for running and emailing a simple query report? Anyone with the correct permissions can manually achieve the same thing in multi-user mode...
Once again, due to Intuit's extraordinary ability to screw up basic functionality, I need to create a custom app, using their own SDK, that I can automate with the Windows task scheduler.
No one at Intuit thought that it was acceptable. It's the customer who buy it that tell them that they accept it. It is acceptable because the customers vote with their wallets that it is so. The quesiton is, why do so many customers think that this is good?
Because there is nothing quite as comparable to the ease of use from an accounting standpoint.
I find that unlikely. It's painfully slow and problematic. That people already know it, yes, given. That it is easier for an accountant to learn and use, essentially impossible.
Well, I'd love to hear you're believed reason why so many people use it.
The ONLY reason we don't here is because it doesn't offer true two sided accounting (so I was told).
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Well, I'd love to hear you're believed reason why so many people use it.
Beyond the huge one that I already said? Sure, marketing. Accountants, like most people, are total suckers for marketing. Tell them it is "what everyone uses" and the lemming response takes over.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Well, I'd love to hear you're believed reason why so many people use it.
Beyond the huge one that I already said? Sure, marketing. Accountants, like most people, are total suckers for marketing. Tell them it is "what everyone uses" and the lemming response takes over.
But when shit is broken, that doesn't keep them there. that's general laziness.
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Listening to Stephen Colbert's D&D session with Matt Mercer while I work. It's pretty entertaining
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So what other solutions exist for the SMB markets for accounting software? I know GnuCash exists, but from what I recall it was one, very dated looking, and didn't support multiple users at a time, meaning it was targeted for sole proprietorship's mostly.
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I know there are a few services for account tracking that offer things for free, but at any scale most of those go out the window.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
So what other solutions exist for the SMB markets for accounting software? I know GnuCash exists, but from what I recall it was one, very dated looking, and didn't support multiple users at a time, meaning it was targeted for sole proprietorship's mostly.
Exactly - this is my question. QB might be shit - but there's nothing that comes close to the functionality at that price point. A few things I've looked at are missing all kinds of shit, i.e. you have to buy two, three or more programs to get the same ability.
QB's online version is shit compared to their on prem version - according to those who've looked at it.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
So what other solutions exist for the SMB markets for accounting software? I know GnuCash exists, but from what I recall it was one, very dated looking, and didn't support multiple users at a time, meaning it was targeted for sole proprietorship's mostly.
Wave, Xero, Sage, lots of stuff.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Exactly - this is my question. QB might be shit - but there's nothing that comes close to the functionality at that price point.
Not our experience. It does have a few semi-unique features. But not stuff that applies to most companies. For most, it's big legal stuff requiring special versions of QB that are unique.
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@Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
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@EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Living the dream in the world of Windows Server Slowness.
Living in the dream in the world of Azure where everything is like Windows 95... Make a change, and reboot your VM, which takes somewhere beteween 5 and 15 minutes.
And the cost... Just... I can't even... [EDIT: Lots of Policticking involved above my pay grade].
Why you running VMs in Azure?
I imagine somebody higher up the totem pole heard the buzzwords "Cloud", "Azure", and "Microsoft" from the same person and they said, "Oh, we NEEEEEED this."
My boss is not happy about it at all, but they put some money towards it, so we have to use it at least for a couple more months. My boss is definitely interested in cloud-hosted stuff, but not with Microsoft, lol.
As to Why? It's hosting some stuff that integrates with our public web site (which will also likely wind up 'in the cloud' if things keep going the way they are now).
It wasn't a lot of Money, but my boss is tracking all our time for managing it and learning it to show the real cost of it. And the numbers ain't pretty at all... We spent 15 minutes waiting for a Server 2019 system to be restarted yesterday... I can't wait until the first Azure outage hits, lol.
I was thinking a lot of times, people spin up a VPS when they can actually go serverless. It's cheaper and more reliable, potentially.
Yeah. We have enough stuff here, that we could justify a full rack colo with our own gear and still come out light years ahead of the cost of what Azure would be.
We could probably use a VPS for quite a few things. We'll likely have some stuff in AWS for testing before the year is out as well.
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On my way to Milwaukee SpiceCorps
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@JaredBusch Nice blue sky afternoon there JB.
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7 months to Christmas eve.
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@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
7 months to Christmas eve.
Quiet, you!
You know what that means though don't you?
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Living the dream in the world of Windows Server Slowness.
Living in the dream in the world of Azure where everything is like Windows 95... Make a change, and reboot your VM, which takes somewhere beteween 5 and 15 minutes.
And the cost... Just... I can't even... [EDIT: Lots of Policticking involved above my pay grade].
Why you running VMs in Azure?
I imagine somebody higher up the totem pole heard the buzzwords "Cloud", "Azure", and "Microsoft" from the same person and they said, "Oh, we NEEEEEED this."
My boss is not happy about it at all, but they put some money towards it, so we have to use it at least for a couple more months. My boss is definitely interested in cloud-hosted stuff, but not with Microsoft, lol.
As to Why? It's hosting some stuff that integrates with our public web site (which will also likely wind up 'in the cloud' if things keep going the way they are now).
It wasn't a lot of Money, but my boss is tracking all our time for managing it and learning it to show the real cost of it. And the numbers ain't pretty at all... We spent 15 minutes waiting for a Server 2019 system to be restarted yesterday... I can't wait until the first Azure outage hits, lol.
I was thinking a lot of times, people spin up a VPS when they can actually go serverless. It's cheaper and more reliable, potentially.
Yeah. We have enough stuff here, that we could justify a full rack colo with our own gear and still come out light years ahead of the cost of what Azure would be.
We could probably use a VPS for quite a few things. We'll likely have some stuff in AWS for testing before the year is out as well.
That's not what I meant by serverless.
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Here's to a quick day of time and a slow day of work!
